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    James Hadden Henderson

    Re James
    fact he married Catherine Roocroft 23/5/1850 Lancaster
    she was b 1824 Lancaster d1871 Preston
    James d 1865 Preston
    children James b1851
    Catherine b1853
    Kate b1853
    Fanny Elizabeth b1853
    Wallace William b1861
    Wallace b1862
    Elizabeth Jane b1863
    1851 James was beer seller and iron moulder
    1859 arrested for theft 1 heat prison
    on the run as Ronald McDonaled
    1861 census repairs watches born Aberdeenshire
    cant find a birth or his parents and later in life he was called James Hadden Henderson
    HELP???

    #2
    James Hamden Henderson or James Hadden Henderson???

    You have both names.
    My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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      #3
      Soz Hadden

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        #4
        I've changed the title of the thread for you.

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          #5
          The 1851 shows James as Beer seller and Iron moulder as does the marriage.

          The 1861 census appears to be the right one for James Henderson married to Catherine Roocroft. The children have mother's maiden name of Roocroft.

          James Henderson 37 repairs watches b Aberdeenshire.
          Catherine Henderson 37
          James Henderson 9
          Catherine Henderson 8
          Fanny Henderson 6
          Margt Hann Roocroft 20 sister.

          However, The marriage certificate is for James Henderson as is his baptism and death registration. Where did you find the Hadden middle name? I see newspaper reports re that name but are you sure that's him?

          Name: James Henderson
          Gender: Male
          Record Type: Baptism
          Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1821
          Baptism Place: St. John's, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
          Father: George Henderson
          Mother: Mary Henderson


          Name
          James Henderson
          Death
          07/1865 Preston Lancashire 8E 366

          Birth reg from Scotlands People:

          Surname Forename ...........Parents/ Other Details........... Gender..... date ......Parish Number..... Ref.....Parish
          HENDERSON JAMES.. GEORGE HENDERSON/MARY TOWER.. M.. 15/10/1821........... 168/B ......... 120 99.. Old Machar
          Last edited by Katarzyna; 21-10-19, 11:34.
          Kat
          My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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            #6
            This is the marriage cert which shows Father's name as George:

            Kat
            My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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              #7
              Siblings for James:

              JOHN WILSON HENDERSON
              Parents:
              GEORGE HENDERSON/MARY TOWER FR3130 (FR3130)
              M
              10/03/1819
              168/B
              110 61
              Old Machar

              ROBERT HENDERSON
              Parents:
              GEORGE HENDERSON/MARY TOWER
              M
              26/09/1820
              168/A
              110 332
              Aberdeen

              Baptised twice????
              ROBERT HENDERSON
              Parents:
              GEORGE HENDERSON/MARY TOWER
              M
              26/09/1820
              168/B
              120 39
              Old Machar

              ELIZABETH MARY HENDERSON
              Parents:
              GEORGE HENDERSON/MARY TOWER
              F
              26/07/1823
              168/B
              120 231
              Old Machar
              Kat
              My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                #8
                He could just have adopted it for some reason unknown!!

                Possible reason ............ too many other people with the name James Henderson.


                OH's grandfather was a Welsh Methodist Minister, going to college in Manchester in his 20s after apprenticing as a cabinet maker. At some point between starting college and graduating in 1900 he suddenly has a middle name. I cannot find him with that (or any) middle name before 1900, but there it is on his graduating notice, in the 1901 Census and on every other census, document etc that I've found, up to his death in the 1930s.

                Our assumption now is that there were several other Welsh Methodist ministers with the same name (true), and he decided to add a middle name to distinguish himself.

                What we do not know is why he took that particular name of "Morton" as I can find no relation or apparent connection with that name. It must have had some significance to him!
                My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

                Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                  #9
                  Sylvia

                  The early 1900s brought out a rash of middle names in my family, lol,and they were all in Manchester. The one which made me laugh was the Seymour middle name of my great grandfather, my grandfather and my father. My grandmother said it was because we are descended from.Jane Seymour's family. Quite by chance I came across my great grandfather's acceptance into the Congregational church on his 21st birthday. His sponsor was Seymour Mead, a well known Lancashire grocer! Haaaa!

                  OC

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                    #10
                    Good one, OC!!

                    I've been thinking along possible similar relationships for our guy ............... my first thought was actually the man he was apprenticed to as cabinet maker. But no ............ after I'd traced that man through several censuses.

                    We have OH's grandfather's apprenticeship paper so that gave me a head start.
                    My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

                    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                      #11
                      That attachment won't open for me Kat so got the details for anyone

                      Lancs OPC
                      Marriage: 23 May 1850 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
                      James Henderson - (X), Full age, Iron Molder, Bachelor, Penny Street
                      Catherine Roocroft - full age, Spinster, Penny Street
                      Groom's Father: George Henderson, Engineer
                      Bride's Father: Richard Roocroft, Labourer
                      Witness: Edward Roocroft?; John Beckett, (X)
                      Married by Licence by: Jos. Turner, Vicar
                      Elaine

                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                        #12
                        Interesting Marriage. Wallace with father James Hadden Henderson.

                        henderson marriage.JPG

                        Birth
                        HENDERSON, WALLACE ROOCROFT
                        GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 537

                        Previous Births who died as infants:

                        HENDERSON, WALLACE WILLIAM ROOCROFT
                        GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 505
                        HENDERSON, WALLACE WILLIAM ROOCROFT
                        GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 496
                        Kat
                        My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                          That attachment won't open for me Kat so got the details for anyone

                          Lancs OPC
                          Marriage: 23 May 1850 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
                          James Henderson - (X), Full age, Iron Molder, Bachelor, Penny Street
                          Catherine Roocroft - full age, Spinster, Penny Street
                          Groom's Father: George Henderson, Engineer
                          Bride's Father: Richard Roocroft, Labourer
                          Witness: Edward Roocroft?; John Beckett, (X)
                          Married by Licence by: Jos. Turner, Vicar

                          Sorry Elaine. This is the cert:

                          henderson marriage.jpg
                          Kat
                          My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                            #14
                            No worries, thanks Kat
                            Elaine

                            Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                            http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                            http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                              #15
                              1871 census - Kate (Catherine ) as widow

                              https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...try&h=25164421

                              Kate Henderson 40
                              Kate Henderson 19
                              Fanny Henderson 16
                              Eliza Henderson 8
                              Wallace Henderson 10

                              Living Preston
                              Kat
                              My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                                #16
                                oops - not my day!
                                Post#12 should be this marriage with James HADDEN Henderson as father of Wallace.

                                Wallace Henderson.JPG

                                Edward Roocroft as Witness
                                Last edited by Katarzyna; 21-10-19, 20:13.
                                Kat
                                My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                                  #17
                                  Was just about to run that by you
                                  Last edited by Elaine; 21-10-19, 20:13.
                                  Elaine

                                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                    #18
                                    The census I meant but thanks for that too
                                    Elaine

                                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                      #19
                                      Just noting this tree, mother Mary Tower

                                      https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tr...03835834/facts
                                      Last edited by Elaine; 21-10-19, 20:20.
                                      Elaine

                                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                        #20
                                        Wallace death in the paper so you have the date Caz
                                        Attached Files
                                        Elaine

                                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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