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    Marriage look up please

    Sarah Keen and Joseph Potts about 1899 not sure where but maybe Shoreditch or Poplar
    First child seems to be Joseph Potts 1899 Shoreditch
    Thanks


    Val

    #2
    Could Sarah have been married before, so that Keen is her maiden name but she married under another surname??
    My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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      #3
      I can’t find a Potts or a Keen child to fit 1899 Shoreditch on the GRO website. There are no Potts at all and only 3 Keen but none has first or middle name of Joseph. Where did you find your reference?

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        #4
        I have searched 1897 - 1911 and found a large Potts family born in Shoreditch, 1 in Poplar and a curve ball in Sheffield. All have mms Keen but still no Joseph. That’s a lot of kids to have and get away with declaring a marriage if none existed. Perfectly possible though that the parents were consistent fibbers LOL I have one of those in my mother’s family. A brick wall for many years was her first born child, an illegitimate boy. Turns out he was the only legitimate one born to a marriage that nobody knew about. Her other three were the illegitimate ones and the claimed marriage never existed.

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          #5
          Thanks for looking ,here they are in 1911 , I dont think Sarah had been married before ,but will have another look.

          https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...13/edit/record

          and 1901
          https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...758.1566829165
          Last edited by Val wish Id never started; 28-09-19, 15:51.


          Val

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            #6
            The census say born in Hackney Wick and Victoria Park, which is just down the road to Shoreditch, still can't find anything.

            There is a marriage of a Sarah Ann Kyne in 1896 (was thinking she would only be 16, but could have remarried under her new name, but used her maiden name at other times.)

            I think a red herring:
            https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

            Have you got her parents?
            Last edited by cbcarolyn; 28-09-19, 19:15.
            Carolyn
            Family Tree site

            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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              #7
              This removal order gives a lot of info

              https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...&rhSource=2352

              It refers to Sarah Potts, properly Keen and Joseph son is George, it's the same birth date as his school admissions

              Potts is Joseph Henry


              ***EDIT just changed the link to the right one apologies
              Attached Files
              Last edited by Elaine; 28-09-19, 19:59.
              Elaine

              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                #8
                It lists the 4 children Sarah Maud Albert Arthur as illegitimate of Sarah and listing the 5 children, notes he is the father of them all.

                There's a note of a sister in the margin

                Jane Branchford
                28 Prince Edward Road Hackney
                Last edited by Elaine; 28-09-19, 20:09.
                Elaine

                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                  #9
                  Margin note
                  Attached Files
                  Elaine

                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                    #10
                    oh thanks or all that info , but sadly if she had a sister Brandford then she isn't my Sarah, unless thats her married name ?? her sister Jane married a Branchflower wonder if thats a mistake?

                    yes have her parents Samuel Edward Keen and Jane nee Nixon, another marriage I cannot find
                    Last edited by Val wish Id never started; 28-09-19, 20:47.


                    Val

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                      #11
                      ooh ooh just noticed her sister Jane Branchflower is at that address thanks all


                      Val

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                        #12
                        Not sure if she could be Joseph's sister as she is in the margin that lists his children.

                        Branchford is not helping but the addresses listed, 1911 Mill Row is there

                        I think it says witness but not sure of what is written before Jane.

                        Have you got access Val? can post the addresses if you want
                        Elaine

                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                          #13
                          Brilliant
                          Elaine

                          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                          http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                          http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                            #14
                            Have been looking on GRO for KEEN girls born with mms NIXON and can’t find a Jane.

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                              #15
                              Thanks very much am thrilled been looking for her for a long time, wonder if she did marry him , doesn't look like it.
                              Maud and Albert were twins , Sarah had twin Brothers, lost one of those two so may be asking for more help..


                              Val

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                                #16
                                Galloway this is Sarahs Birth

                                Keen, Sarah Mother Nixon
                                GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 656
                                Last edited by Val wish Id never started; 28-09-19, 21:20.


                                Val

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                                  #17
                                  I think is first child George from GRO as listed in the image in post#7

                                  KEEN, GEORGE THOMAS POTTS -
                                  GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 586
                                  Last edited by GallowayLass; 28-09-19, 21:26.

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                                    #18
                                    Is this the missing Joseph? Could Sarah have been “sent away” for the birth?

                                    KEAN, JOSEPH -
                                    GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 48
                                    Last edited by GallowayLass; 28-09-19, 21:29.

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                                      #19
                                      Thanks Galloway dont think thats him as ,his School records show him as Joseph Henry Potts and born 28 Dec 1899 Hackney Wick


                                      Val

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                                        #20
                                        Still not coming up with a POTTS BRANCH* marriage with Jane having either surname. Grr!!

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