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    Why can't I find my Great Uncle

    Can someone help.

    I have problems researching my Great Uncle Joseph Beaver.

    He can be found in 1891 Census and Family Search has his baptism 29 April 1889, Linchmere, Sussex.

    Why cannot I find his birth or death in any of the register indexes.

    He is also cannot be found in 1901 or 1911 census - could he for example have gone abroad.

    Thanks & Regards

    #2
    Not having much luck.

    The only thing I have found is J Beaver dying in 1916 WW1. Wife Mary R Beaver remarried to Kountouroudos. She was living in America. On CWGC,

    She is travelling to America in 1920, from FMP. Have no idea if J was Joseph.
    Lin

    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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      #3
      Have you got the marriage of his parents? When were any siblings born?

      Jay
      Janet in Yorkshire



      Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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        #4
        There is a marriage of a Joseph Beaver, Fruiterer - Father William Deceased

        Name: Joseph Beaver
        Gender: Male
        Marriage Age: 23
        Record Type: Marriage
        Birth Date: abt 1884
        Marriage Date: 19 May 1907
        Marriage Place: St Mary, Battersea, Wandsworth, England
        Father: William Beaver
        Spouse: Maria Carter

        Could this be him?
        Carolyn
        Family Tree site

        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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          #5
          The only J Beaver marriage to a Mary R I can find is a John Beaver to a possible Mary R Smith in Sept 1913 Durham.
          Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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            #6
            The only 1891 census I can find he is born in Haselmere

            there is this birth record:
            Name: Joseph John Beaver
            Registration Year: 1888
            Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
            Registration district: Croydon
            Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
            Inferred County: Surrey
            Volume: 2a
            Page: 256

            His baptism may not be where he was born.

            If these are likely, I can see other records, but not sure if I have the right one.
            Carolyn
            Family Tree site

            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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              #7
              Here are the ancestry links that I found:
              1891 census
              https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...793.1535224975

              baptism
              https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

              can see father William and Mother Ellen Matilda, so think this must be the right records.
              Carolyn
              Family Tree site

              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                #8
                Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                The only 1891 census I can find he is born in Haselmere

                there is this birth record:
                Name: Joseph John Beaver
                Registration Year: 1888
                Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
                Registration district: Croydon
                Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
                Inferred County: Surrey
                Volume: 2a
                Page: 256

                His baptism may not be where he was born.

                If these are likely, I can see other records, but not sure if I have the right one.
                ...just found a death that matches this, so ignore.
                Carolyn
                Family Tree site

                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                  There is a marriage of a Joseph Beaver, Fruiterer - Father William Deceased

                  Name: Joseph Beaver
                  Gender: Male
                  Marriage Age: 23
                  Record Type: Marriage
                  Birth Date: abt 1884
                  Marriage Date: 19 May 1907
                  Marriage Place: St Mary, Battersea, Wandsworth, England
                  Father: William Beaver
                  Spouse: Maria Carter

                  Could this be him?
                  I have found this Joseph and not yours - as he was born in Bagshot

                  If the census is correct who is the 'relative' is Langridge a family name?
                  Carolyn
                  Family Tree site

                  Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                  Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                    The only 1891 census I can find he is born in Haselmere

                    there is this birth record:
                    Name: Joseph John Beaver
                    Registration Year: 1888
                    Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
                    Registration district: Croydon
                    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
                    Inferred County: Surrey
                    Volume: 2a
                    Page: 256

                    His baptism may not be where he was born.

                    If these are likely, I can see other records, but not sure if I have the right one.
                    It seems that the MMN of that child was Perry.

                    Jay
                    Janet in Yorkshire



                    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                      #11
                      BeaverAJ, as we are working in the dark, can you give us a bit more information please? Where was he in 1891 census? What were the names of his parents? What was his father's occupation?
                      I would think Beaver is a name which lends itself to spelling variations, including Beever, Beavoir/Beavois and Beaven/Bevan etc.

                      Jay
                      Janet in Yorkshire



                      Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                        #12
                        To save everyone having to complete the same searches before they can even start looking, here is what I have so far:

                        1891 New Town, Horsham, Sussex – RG12/828/29/9
                        William Beaver 28 Mason b Bristol
                        Ellen 27 wife b Eastbourne, Sussex
                        Joseph 2 son b Haselmere (sic), Surrey
                        James Langridge 15 relative General Labourer b Eastbourne, Sussex

                        Baptism at Linchmere, Sussex
                        24 Apr 1889 Joseph s/o William & Ellen Matilda Beaver, Linchmere, Sussex

                        Baptism at St Mark, Marylebone Road, Westminster
                        16 Nov 1893 (born 11 Nov 1893) Henry/Harry (poor writing) s/o William & Ellen Beaver, Stonemason, Rainier St, Notting Hill

                        BEAVER, HENRY mmn LANGRIDGE GRO Ref: 1893 D Quarter MARYLEBONE Vol 1A Page 529
                        BEAVER, EDWARD ALBERT mmn LANGRIDGE GRO Ref: 1896 M Quarter HASTINGS Vol 2B Page 10

                        Henry possibly later becomes Henry James Beaver DoB 5 Nov 1893
                        Last edited by teasie; 15-09-19, 19:58.

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                          #13
                          Not seeing a marriage for William and Ellen Matilda.

                          OC

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                            #14
                            nor me OC


                            Val

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                              #15
                              oops
                              Last edited by Val wish Id never started; 15-09-19, 21:07.


                              Val

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                                #16
                                Has anyone considered this birth registration?
                                LANGRIDGE, JOSEPH mmn HODGSON
                                GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in LEWES Volume 02B Page 192

                                Anne
                                Last edited by Anne in Carlisle; 15-09-19, 21:27.

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                                  #17
                                  Anne

                                  Yes, I looked at that and considered it, it is a definite possibility, especially as I cannot see a birth of an Ellen Matilda Langridge.

                                  EDIT - but no, she was Annie Hodgson, not Ellen Matilda.
                                  Last edited by Olde Crone Holden; 15-09-19, 21:36.

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                                    #18
                                    think that baby died the same year


                                    Val

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                                      #19
                                      this surname looks suspect

                                      JOSEPH WILLIAM
                                      Last name LANGRISH
                                      Birth year 1888
                                      Birth quarter 2
                                      Registration month -
                                      Mother's maiden name Oliver
                                      District Midhurst
                                      County Sussex
                                      Country England
                                      Volume 2B
                                      Page 407


                                      Val

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                                        #20
                                        ignore that found him


                                        Val

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