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  • Elaine
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    Posting the row dated 19th Jan 1818
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  • Elaine
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    Can't send you a message because of your settings, are you able to send one to me?
    Last edited by Elaine; 12-10-19, 23:00.

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  • Elaine
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    You can always send it to me and I will have a go at posting, will pm you.

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  • MJLCarr
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    The Plot thickens!

    I have just received some images from the British Library with David Fraser in them along with his son-in-law Christopher Rideout Read. In this Christopher of Brabant Court, Philpot lane along with a James Nesbitt put up £900 in security for a Mrs Sarah Fraser with Child, Mr David Fraser and Margaret Fraser. There are three columns I am struggling to make sense of but I seem to be unable to attach it to this post! By my guess it says they are passengers with residency in Bombay and under 'description of instrument' it says bond. Any ideas?

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  • Elaine
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    Anna burial info

    http://bacsa.frontis.co/bin/aps_detail.php?id=613689

    Photo of grave

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...71/anna-fraser
    Last edited by Elaine; 24-09-19, 23:21.

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  • Elaine
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    Is this David Alexander?

    Morning Post 03 February 1823

    Death 1834 in Java

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...atavia&f=false

    Anna died 1823 in Batavia

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...atavia&f=false

    This heading in google books search

    Journal of the Malayan Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society
    1964 - ?Snippet view - ?More editions
    Sacred To the memory of Anna Wife of David Alexander Fraser Esq. Merchant of Batavia Who died on the 18th Feb. 1823 Aged 27 years Simpson and Llewelyn Sct" Calcutta. 28. [Tombstone in black marble in the Chancel floor of 137 Part 1, ...
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  • Elaine
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    Hopefully not too long to wait

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  • MJLCarr
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    Originally posted by Elaine View Post
    Found these

    http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/FullDisp...=014-000314293

    David Fraser
    Event type:Biography
    Start date:19 Jan
    Start year:1818
    Biographical notes:
    Mrs. Sarah Fraser and children, David Fraser and Margaret Fraser, Bond, Passengers, Bombay, Amount of security: £900, Sureties: Christopher R. Read, Brabent Court, Philpot Lane, Merchant. John Nesbitt, Tokenhouse Yard, Merchant., Authority of Court: 7 Jan 1818

    Transcribed by:
    FIBIS
    India Office Records Reference:Z/O/1/8 No. 1385
    Presidency:Bombay

    Check the source on the left handside for the dates

    Has John S H baptism also

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...off=&ml_rpos=1

    Name: C R Read
    Record Type: Register
    Residence Date: 1793
    Residence Place: India
    Merchant Occ as 1841
    Thank you so much for these. I've ordered copies and also a few wills to see if I can unravel the relations. I am still convinced these MacLeods and Marion MacLeod are related i'm just not sure how.

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  • Elaine
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    Little bit of progress, David had died by 1811, Amelia's marriage announcement

    Oxford Journal 25 May 1811
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  • Elaine
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    This might be worth saving

    http://www.heicshipslogs.co.uk/

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  • Elaine
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    Found these

    http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/FullDisp...=014-000314293

    David Fraser
    Event type:Biography
    Start date:19 Jan
    Start year:1818
    Biographical notes:
    Mrs. Sarah Fraser and children, David Fraser and Margaret Fraser, Bond, Passengers, Bombay, Amount of security: £900, Sureties: Christopher R. Read, Brabent Court, Philpot Lane, Merchant. John Nesbitt, Tokenhouse Yard, Merchant., Authority of Court: 7 Jan 1818

    Transcribed by:
    FIBIS
    India Office Records Reference:Z/O/1/8 No. 1385
    Presidency:Bombay

    Check the source on the left handside for the dates

    Has John S H baptism also

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...off=&ml_rpos=1

    Name: C R Read
    Record Type: Register
    Residence Date: 1793
    Residence Place: India
    Merchant Occ as 1841
    Last edited by Elaine; 22-09-19, 21:00.

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  • Elaine
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    There's no clue in the will as it just says witness, East India Company Records For John might lead somewhere as GallowayLass suggested post #5

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  • MJLCarr
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    Originally posted by Elaine View Post
    This is Donald's will

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

    I looked at it before but now realise it's J. H. Fraser witness, there are brothers Charles & John, brother in law Alexander Macleod
    Thanks for this Elaine. Do we know how Donald is related to J.S.H. Fraser? I'm thinking either a cousin or an Uncle as J.S.H.'s mother was a MacLeod. It's also a shame I am no good at reading old wills; seems like there could be some really interesting stuff there!

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  • Elaine
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    Not quite what you are looking for but mentions lots of family an that Amelia's father was David Fraser

    http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspap...9090605-1.2.30

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  • Elaine
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    This is Donald's will

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

    I looked at it before but now realise it's J. H. Fraser witness, there are brothers Charles & John, brother in law Alexander Macleod

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  • Elaine
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    This link names his heirs,

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...krDYgQ6AEIUzAH

    Was hoping the announcements would have more details.

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  • Elaine
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    There's quite a few references for the boys and Amelia's death is in the paper, but noticed this list

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...20ship&f=false



    he is with Donald 1813 also
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  • vera2013
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    1 Jane Fraser b 11/08/1781 bp 22/08/1781
    F David m Marion Westminster

    2 Archibald Campbell Fraser b 1783 bp 1783 St James, Westminster, f David m Marion
    ??? 30/04/1804/Allegation for m between Archibald Fraser 21 St Martin in the Field and Alice Davison 21 Kensington

    3 William Charles b 18/06/1784/bp 08/07/1784
    As above parents and church
    Army General
    Died 1859 Paddington buried All Souls Kensal Green

    4 John Small Henry Fraser b 14/02/1786 bp 16/03/
    1786
    As above church and parents
    Died 1868. Burial 18/01/1868 All Souls Kensal Green. Recorded to be in same grave as Wm Chas d 1859.

    5 David Alexander Fraser b 25/06/1787 bp 05/08/1787
    As above church, parents

    6 Amelia Fraser b 10/12/1789 bp 14/02/1790
    As above for Church and Parents
    M Christopher R Read 16/05/1811 St James Westminster

    Vera

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  • MJLCarr
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    Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
    I can see x 6 children for a David and Marion Fraser bap St James, Westminster. Only one with a Scottish middle name ie Archibald Campbell Fraser b 1783. One other was a General in the E India Madras Infantry (14th)

    FMP have Westminster St James bap registers to browse. Have looked from 1850 but not seeing a David Fraser but likely to have been bap Scotland.

    David Fraser not in Ancestry indenture registers

    Vera
    Hi Vera,
    I only have four children I've discovered. What children have you found?

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  • vera2013
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    Originally posted by vera2013 View Post

    FMP have Westminster St James bap registers to browse. Have looked from 1850 but not seeing a David Fraser but likely to have been bap Scot
    EDIT looked from 1750

    Vera
    Last edited by vera2013; 20-09-19, 21:56.

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