James Jack Esq. Glasgow

[Katarzyna]

Ancestry is playing me up at the moment - I put the exact details from your transcript in ancestry and it couldn't find that one on the 1841 It's happening a lot.

[GallowayLass]

Well done Kat, I didn’t find that one. Should have tried FMP instead LOL

I see he’s ten years older than expected in 1851. 1841 has him as 1796.
A birth place of Lesmahagow helps a lot.

[Katarzyna]

what about this 1851 census
Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
44, Maxwell Street, St Enochs,Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

James Jack Head Married Male 65 1786 Carter Lanarkshire, Scotland
Ann Jack Wife Married Female 51 1800 Housekeeper Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

[rankpin]

You see I don't think that's the correct James Jack because on his marriage cert, it says he was a carter. The profession of carter is I believe someone who transports goods by horse drawn cart ? Unless its possible someone with that occupation can have the title of 'esquire' ?

[GallowayLass]

Assuming that death is your Ann this is her baptism.

Surname
BOWMAN
Forename
ANN
Parents/ Other Details
WILLIAM BOWMAN/MARY CAMPBELL FR1728 (FR1728)
Gender
F
Date
19/11/1795
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
190 251
Parish
Glasgow

[GallowayLass]

I might be wrong about that. Here’s a death for an Ann JACK or BOWMAN in another parish in Glasgow City. You can add a woman's maiden surname in SP death searches. Also bear in mind that ages in 1841 can be 5-10 years out.

Surname
JACK
Forename
ANN
Age at death
76
Mother's Maiden Name
CAMPBELL
Year
1863
Ref
644/9 934
RD Name
Tradeston

[GallowayLass]

There are no entries for that family in 1851 Scotland census. As Margaret married in 1848 in Ireland, I have a sneaking suspicion that the whole family moved over there sometime 1841-1848.

[GallowayLass]

From 1841 census transcription on ancestry. Note Cecilia is given as Cecily. I used her name to search as it’s not that common. Not sure why the address shown on James snr’s entry is Cellar. Cecily’s says Robertson Lane. You would need to purchase the original from SP site to be sure what that says.

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[GallowayLass]

This is James and Ann’s marriage entry. Barony is a parish in Glasgow.

Surname JACK
Forename JAMES
Spouse Name ANN BOWMAN /FR1972 (FR1972)
Date 29/01/1819
Parish Number 622/ Ref 70 474
Parish Barony

[GallowayLass]

These are all the baptisms to James JACK and Ann BOWMAN. Hopefully one of them will have had a post 1855 marriage which would give you more details about the parents.

Surname
JACK
Forename
JAMES
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4372 (FR4372)
Gender
M
Date
20/12/1830
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
330 64
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
THOMAS
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR3881 (FR3881)
Gender
M
Date
23/08/1824
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
310 435
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
ANN
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4033 (FR4033)
Gender
F
Date
02/07/1826
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
320 159
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
ELIZABETH
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4177 (FR4177)
Gender
F
Date
20/08/1828
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
320 445
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
JANET
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR5100 (FR5100)
Gender
F
Date
21/12/1837
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
350 137
Parish

Surname
JACK
Forename
JEAN
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4622 (FR4622)
Gender
F
Date
16/08/1833
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
330 562
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
MARGARET
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR3626 (FR3626)
Gender
F
Date
14/09/1821
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
300 240
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
MARION
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR2575 (FR2575)
Gender
F
Date
21/10/1819
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
220 255
Parish
Glasgow

Surname
JACK
Forename
CECILIA
Parents/ Other Details
JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4858 (FR4858)
Gender
F
Date
15/10/1835
Parish Number
644/1
Ref
340 245
Parish
Glasgow

[GallowayLass]

I think this your Margaret’s baptism on Scotland’s People.

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[rankpin]

I'm looking for some help with the above person from someone who would know a bit more about Scottish research than me. My 3x great grandfather (Leslie Rankin) married the Daughter of James Jack in 1848 in Garvagh, County Londonderry, Ireland, she was called Margaret. A newspaper posting recording the marriage states that Margaret was the daughter of James Jack Esquire of Glasgow. On the marriage certificate it states James Jack was a 'steward' and that the daughters address was 'Ballintemple' a townland near Garvagh in Ireland. Important to note that Margaret died in 1867 aged 44, making her birth date somewhere between 1822 and 1823.

I'm just struggling to locate James Jack, as there are so many people with that name in Scottish census returns. I don't think James moved to Ireland at all because there are no death records for him here.

Anybody that can add a little clarity to my research would be most welcome.

Thank you.