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    Looking for death information - Leonard Edgar Biggs

    Hi all,

    I'm having trouble locating any death record for my great grandfather and was hoping someone may be able to help.

    He is Leonard Edgar Biggs, born ~1978 in Kensington. In 1901 he married Evelyn Maud Birch in Kensington. My grandfather, Leslie J Biggs was born in Birmingham in 1922, but Leonard is listed as deceased on the birth certificate, with the occupation of painter. From the records I can find, it seems like he enrolled with the army in 1914/1915 but was discharged due to epilepsy shortly after.

    Additionally, on my grandfathers marriage certificate, his father is listed as Leonard James Biggs, but I think this is a red herring.. he likely changed his name, but I've found nothing else with that name either.

    I've hunted around everywhere I can find access to, but I'm unable to find any record of a Leonard E Biggs dying around 1922 that fits this description. Does anyone have a suggestion where else I could look?

    Regards,
    Lee

    #2
    Might not be a lot of help but he joined the army in 1898 and was released 'medically unfit' in 1899. Father William Louis and mother Amelia of 116 Portland Road Notting Hill.

    Also if he had epilepsy did he leave his family or end up in an institution. If so perhaps look for him with just his initials as this is often how they were recorded.

    Will see what else I can find but going out soon
    Lin

    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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      #3
      How about this 1930 Elec roll

      Evelyn Maude Carroll
      George Carroll
      Leonard Edgar Biggs
      Lewis James Biggs
      Maude Biggs

      All living 104 Kenwood Road Saltley district Warwickshire 1930

      As above with
      Amelia Biggs
      Mary Gertrude Briggs

      1931 Elec Rolls

      Not got time to sort them out but feel sure they might be yours.
      Lin

      Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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        #4
        This is the family in 1911.
        https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...04&usePUB=true

        Leonard E Biggs 29 coach painter
        Evelyn M Biggs 29
        Charles A Biggs 8
        Leonard E Biggs 7
        James L Biggs 5
        Maude A Biggs 3
        Gertrude M Biggs 0
        Last edited by Katarzyna; 14-03-19, 12:47.
        Kat
        My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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          #5
          1901
          https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...97&usePUB=true
          William L Biggs 72
          Amelia Biggs 49
          Walter A Biggs 26
          Oliver A Biggs 21
          Senora E Biggs 20 Leonard mistranscribed
          Matilda Biggs 18
          Lillian Biggs 16
          Herbert G Wilson 20
          Nellie Smith 22
          Kat
          My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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            #6
            BIGGS, LEONARD EDGAR mmn GROVES
            GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 35

            1901 and 1911 census gives Uxbridge as his birth place.

            Birthdate 30 November 1878 so Jan-March Qtr registration is just within the time limit.
            Kat
            My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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              #7
              Originally posted by Lin Fisher View Post
              How about this 1930 Elec roll

              Evelyn Maude Carroll
              George Carroll
              Leonard Edgar Biggs
              Lewis James Biggs
              Maude Biggs


              All living 104 Kenwood Road Saltley district Warwickshire 1930

              As above with
              Amelia Biggs
              Mary Gertrude Briggs

              1931 Elec Rolls

              Not got time to sort them out but feel sure they might be yours.
              Evelyn Maud married George Carroll

              July 1927 • The Register Office, Birmingham North 6d 1298

              Her three children are with her on that Electoral Roll- Leonard b 1904, Lewis 1906 and Maud 1908
              Kat
              My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                #8
                Daughter Maud Amelia married in Birmingham to William George Wicklen Dec Qtr 1938

                1939 Register
                Name: Evelyn M Carroll (widow)
                Gender: Female
                Marital status: Widow
                Birth Date: 7 Dec 1881
                Address: 71 Redthorne Grove
                Residence Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
                Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
                Bernard Biggs 1912
                Frank Biggs 1914
                Leslie Biggs 1922
                Harry Biggs 1919
                This record is officially closed.
                Hilda Biggs 1905

                Still cannot see a death for Leonard.
                Last edited by Katarzyna; 14-03-19, 15:06.
                Kat
                My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                  #9
                  Well done Kat.

                  I didn't have time but I was convinced they belonged but we still haven't found his death.
                  Lin

                  Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                    #10
                    Is 7 Charles Henry Street (St Martin's and Deritend, Birmingham) familiar as there is a Leonard and Evelyn Maud Biggs there 1921 and 1922
                    In Spring 1923 Evelyn Maud lives at 7 Prince of Wales Terrace
                    1927 Evelyn Maud with Lewis James 104 Kenwood Road
                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                      #11
                      Thanks for the help Lin and Kat. Everything you've found look like positive hits.. as you discovered, there was also a son with the same name, LE Biggs.

                      The hospital/institution is a possible track.. I've done some searching with the initials, but will put more time into that. Still hoping to find a clue somewhere..

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                        Is 7 Charles Henry Street (St Martin's and Deritend, Birmingham) familiar as there is a Leonard and Evelyn Maud Biggs there 1921 and 1922
                        In Spring 1923 Evelyn Maud lives at 7 Prince of Wales Terrace
                        1927 Evelyn Maud with Lewis James 104 Kenwood Road
                        Hi Elaine, yes, 7 Charles Henry Street is where my grandfather Leslie was born 16/08/22.

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                          #13
                          Just spotted the address on the army notes Charles Henry Street

                          https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource
                          Last edited by Elaine; 14-03-19, 22:19.
                          Elaine

                          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                          http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                          http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                            #14
                            Births Sep 1919
                            Biggs Sidney H Birch Birmingham 6d 545 ..........Harry on 1939?

                            Births Sep 1922
                            Biggs John L Birch Birmingham 6d 692 .......... Leslie on 1939?
                            I think Hilda b 1905 on the 1939 register must be this one as I cannot see a Hilda birth anywhere .

                            BIGGS, HILDA FRANCES BIRCH
                            GRO Reference: 1917 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 515
                            Kat
                            My avatar is my Great Grandmother, Cassandra Elizabeth Palmer 1861 to 1940

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                              #15
                              It maybe that the death of father was registered in the same district as the birth unless the mother lied about the father...it must be within 9 months.

                              It must be mistranscribed? badly. What was the exact district of the birth?

                              edit ....just seen Kats post
                              Last edited by cbcarolyn; 14-03-19, 23:10.
                              Carolyn
                              Family Tree site

                              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                #16
                                Tried messaging the local register office? Sometimes events miss the general register office indexes.

                                Asides from that, maybe message the local council asking about burials and cremations. I have one who died in 1930, i know this because he left a will. There is no death registration locally or federally.

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                                  #17
                                  Thanks, no I haven’t yet. I didn’t realise they would be available to help.. I’ll try emailing the Birmingham register office, and I guess the Uxbridge and Kensington ones too maybe?..

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                                    #18
                                    you can order a copy bmd from all reg office if they were the issuing office

                                    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/5...th_certificate
                                    Carolyn
                                    Family Tree site

                                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                      #19
                                      Bit of an update for this one: I applied for to the Birmingham registry office for a death cert in the name of Leonard Edgar Biggs. They search 1920-1924 but were unable to find one :/

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                                        #20
                                        that is a shame, do you know how far they search? wonder if it has been mistranscribed as something like brigss. I did look at some of them, but nothing looked obvious.
                                        Carolyn
                                        Family Tree site

                                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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