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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    Hmmn you do make some valid points though. On the 1851 census where he is living with Sarah and Sarahs mum he states he is a 'former gamekeeper' on the return. Maybe he was dismissed?
    I read that as family gamekeeper - but did think that was an odd thing to say
    Carolyn
    Family Tree site

    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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      Alfred Cecils will leaves everything to Evelyn, no mention of anyone else.
      Julie
      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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        Deaths Jun 1855
        Jukes Sarah 39 Atcham 6a 436 [1816]

        I think this is the right burial for this Sarah and checked it is in the right district....burial in Pontesbury 6 Jun 1855

        She is buried as Juckes, not coming up with anything concrete about her so far
        Attached Files
        Elaine

        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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          GRO Jaques, Sarah June Q 1859 Cookham reg aged 38

          FMP burial Shottesbrooke, St John the Baptist buried 17 April 1859 B 1821 aged 38

          FMP

          Windsor Eton Express, Berks, Bucks & Middx Journal & A Surrey Gazette 17 April 1858

          Monday 12 April 1858. My abbreviated summary.

          Trial of 2 labourers poaching with a gun in a wood in the occupation of Arthur Van sittart of Shottesbrooke on the 15th January last

          John W Jaques was 1st examined

          He said he was an Assistant Keeper on the Estate of Mr Vansittart at Shottesbrooke

          Will try to post a captcha

          Vera





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            Copied over from previous page:



            Sarah list: I have added her YOB according to age death in [ ] I do realise that this could be wrong but at least it'll give us a starting block. I used the search in FreeBMD from JFM 1851 to OND 1861.

            1851 census was the night of 30 March 1851.
            1861 census was the night of 7 April 1861.

            Deaths before OND 1851 are either too young or too old to be Sarah so I have discounted them.

            ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

            Deaths Dec 1851
            Jacox Sarah Meriden 16 340 ? not in gro b.abt 1765.


            Deaths Mar 1852
            JACOCKS Sarah 40 Lichfield 6b 199 [1811] married to William and he was a victualler.


            Deaths Dec 1854
            Jaques Sarah 31 Bury 8c 226 [1823] married to David a card room/loom? hand. Brunswick Street
            Jukes Sarah 42 Aston 6d 164 [1812] married to John a Currier Edgbaston.

            Deaths Mar 1855
            Jaques Sarah 40 Bermondsey 1d 104 [1815]

            Deaths Jun 1855
            Jukes Sarah 39 Atcham 6a 436 [1816] burial in Pontesbury 6 Jun 1855


            Deaths Dec 1855
            Jaques Sarah 40 Beverley 9d 57 [1815]

            Deaths Jun 1856
            JAQUES Sarah 37 Oldham 8d 376 [1819]

            Deaths Sep 1856
            Jukes Sarah 53 Dudley 6c 33 [1803]

            Deaths Dec 1856
            JACQUES Sarah 36 Westminster 1a 181 [1820]
            JUKES Sarah 55 Dudley 6c 22 [1801]

            Deaths Mar 1857
            Jewkes Sarah Dudley 6c 78 not in GRO

            Deaths Sep 1858
            Jaques Sarah 46 Doncaster 9c 276 [1812]

            Deaths Dec 1858
            Jacques Sarah Sunderland 10a 225 not in GRO b. 1775 so not Sarah.
            Jewkes Sarah 43 Dudley 6c 84 [1815]

            Deaths Jun 1859
            Jaques Sarah 55 W Derby 8b 227 [1804]
            Jaques Sarah 38 Cookham 2c 255 [1821]

            Deaths Mar 1860
            Jaques Sarah 59 Bury 8c 252 [1801]

            Deaths Dec 1860
            Jaques Sarah 31 Bradford Yk 9b 89 [1829]
            Jewkes Sarah 58 Dudley 6c 62 [1802]

            Deaths Mar 1861
            Jukes Sarah 40 Dudley 6c 90 [1821]

            Deaths Jun 1861
            JAQUES Sarah Knaresbro 9a 88 not in GRO [[this one unlikely as it would fall after the 1861 census]]
            Last edited by Darksecretz; 15-01-21, 09:19.
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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              ooh great find, wow so now in Berkshire, I found article and added to others so Julie can download. if only the wendon was consistent it would help!
              Carolyn
              Family Tree site

              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
                GRO Jaques, Sarah June Q 1859 Cookham reg aged 38

                FMP burial Shottesbrooke, St John the Baptist buried 17 April 1859 B 1821 aged 38

                FMP

                Windsor Eton Express, Berks, Bucks & Middx Journal & A Surrey Gazette 17 April 1858

                Monday 12 April 1858. My abbreviated summary.

                Trial of 2 labourers poaching with a gun in a wood in the occupation of Arthur Van sittart of Shottesbrooke on the 15th January last

                John W Jaques was 1st examined

                He said he was an Assistant Keeper on the Estate of Mr Vansittart at Shottesbrooke

                Will try to post a captcha

                Vera
                I had a feeling that in order for him to marry in 1861 that Sarah wouldn't have been long gone. I will look forward to that snippit Vera.

                Julie
                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                .......I find dead people

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                  Ooh found another following on from Vera's lead for 1857 and he goes to Reading Jail for a few weeks have added also.
                  Last edited by cbcarolyn; 15-01-21, 09:35.
                  Carolyn
                  Family Tree site

                  Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                  Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                    Updated where is JWJ now....
                    1817 Ardleigh Born
                    1842 Market Overton Game keeper J M Wingfield Newspaper
                    1849 Thorganby Game keeper Newspaper
                    1850 Market Overton marr Sarah Robinson from Melton Mowbray Newspaper
                    1851 Melton Mowbray Leics CENSUS (George next door)
                    1855 Thorganby Game keeper Newspaper
                    1857 Shottesbrooke Berks asst Game keeper (White Waltham
                    /Maidenhead area)
                    Newspaper
                    1858 Shottesbrooke Berks asst Game keeper (White Waltham
                    /Maidenhead area)
                    Newspaper
                    1861 Ardleigh Rochester, Essex CENSUS (with father Robert)
                    1861 Ardleigh Rochester, Essex Marr July Charlotte Cole
                    1862 Ardleigh Rochester, Essex Dau Sarah born (John gone)
                    1863 Brecon Brecknockshire marriage To Elizabeth Mitton
                    1864 Milton Ferry, Castor Peterborough/
                    Northampton
                    Estate papers Newspaper
                    1867 St Thomas Devon Son Alfred born (not in 1881 w/house)
                    1868 St Thomas Devon Dau Louise born & died
                    1869 Merthyr Tydfil Wales Dau Elizabeth born (census says Norton)
                    1870 Norton in Hales Shropshire Dau Louise born (not in 1881 w/house)
                    1871 Norton in Hales Shropshire CENSUS
                    1873 Market Drayton Shropshire Dau Georgina born
                    1877 Market Drayton Shropshire Son Walter born
                    Apr 1881 Builth Wales committal jail
                    May 1881 Builth Wales discharge jail
                    Dec 1885 Southwark admission institution
                    Mar 1886 Southwark discharge institution
                    Jul 1887 Madron Cornwall Death
                    Last edited by cbcarolyn; 15-01-21, 16:05.
                    Carolyn
                    Family Tree site

                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                      Received a death this morning and it is for Sarah Jaques.. wife of JWJ. So she can now be put to rest.
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                      .......I find dead people

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                        Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
                        GRO Jaques, Sarah June Q 1859 Cookham reg aged 38

                        FMP burial Shottesbrooke, St John the Baptist buried 17 April 1859 B 1821 aged 38
                        Will try to post a captcha

                        Vera
                        did you manage to get one Vera? can't see it on google photos/shared drive?
                        Julie
                        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                        .......I find dead people

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                          Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

                          did you manage to get one Vera? can't see it on google photos/shared drive?
                          I meant the newspaper snippet re JWJ and the trial of the Poachers. Carolyn has put that on Google.

                          The burial of Sarah is on FMP. I Can do a captur of it

                          Vera

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                            Originally posted by vera2013 View Post

                            I meant the newspaper snippet re JWJ and the trial of the Poachers. Carolyn has put that on Google.

                            The burial of Sarah is on FMP. I Can do a capture of it

                            Vera
                            if you could please that'd be great

                            thank you
                            Julie
                            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                            .......I find dead people

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                              MASSIVE thanks to Vera, Carolyn and Elaine for input on this mare of a line!

                              Couldn't have done it without you.

                              THANK YOU X
                              Julie
                              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                              .......I find dead people

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                                where are you with it all now?
                                Carolyn
                                Family Tree site

                                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                  Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                                  where are you with it all now?
                                  Need to get some sort of verification for JWJ Kresow Kernow when they reopen. Happy that I now have a death for Sarah. Not got much on Charlotte & Sarah I do know that Charlotte married a William Chaplin and died in 1922 but I lost Sarah after the 1881 census in Colchester.
                                  Julie
                                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                  .......I find dead people

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                                    Only index for burial of Sarah Jaques

                                    Capture Jaques, Sarah burial.JPG


                                    Not sure if this works


                                    Vera Capture Jaques, Sarah burial.JPG

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                                      Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
                                      Only index for burial of Sarah Jaques

                                      Capture Jaques, Sarah burial.JPG


                                      Not sure if this works


                                      Vera Capture Jaques, Sarah burial.JPG
                                      Brilliant thank you Vera, I'll have to have a shuftie about and see if the Prs are about somewhere.

                                      Julie
                                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                      .......I find dead people

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                                        Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

                                        Brilliant thank you Vera, I'll have to have a shuftie about and see if the Prs are about somewhere.
                                        Berkshire records office have burial records for Shottesbrooke St John the Baptist but bit confusing which dates are covered

                                        Parish Register (berkshirerecordoffice.org.uk)

                                        Vera

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                                          Originally posted by vera2013 View Post

                                          Berkshire records office have burial records for Shottesbrooke St John the Baptist but bit confusing which dates are covered

                                          Parish Register (berkshirerecordoffice.org.uk)

                                          Vera
                                          That's lovely, thanks Vera
                                          Julie
                                          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                          .......I find dead people

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