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    #21
    From Lancs OPC website:

    Baptism: 25 Jan 1874 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
    George Morris Townson - [Child] of Cornelius Townson & Margaret
    Abode: Clitheroe
    Occupation: Glazier
    Baptised by: G Fielden, Rector
    Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1890, Page 39, Entry 992
    Source: LDS Film 1471152

    Baptism: 28 Sep 1879 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
    Jane Townson - [Child] of Cornelius Townson & Bridget
    Born: 25 Aug 1879
    Abode: Clitheroe
    Occupation: Painter
    Baptised by: G Fielden, Rector
    Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1890, Page 84, Entry 1234
    Source: LDS Film 1471152

    Baptism: 25 Sep 1881 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
    Elizabeth Townson - [Child] of Cornelius Townson & Bridge [sic]
    Born: 2 Aug 1881
    Abode: Whalley Road, Clitheroe
    Occupation: Plumber
    Baptised by: G Fielden, Rector
    Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1890, Page 99, Entry 1308
    Source: LDS Film 1471152

    Baptism: 1 Oct 1882 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
    Emma Townson - [Child] of Cornelius Townson & Bridget
    Abode: Barrow in Whalley
    Occupation: Painter
    Baptised by: C. C. Prichard, Vicar
    Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1888, Page 126
    Source: LDS Film 1471099

    Burial: 6 Aug 1883 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
    Emma Townson - Daughter of Cornelius Townson
    Age: 11 months
    Abode: Barrow
    Buried by: H. T. Hutchinson, Curate
    Register: Burials 1878 - 1891, Page 44, Entry 348
    Source: LDS Film 1471099

    Baptism: 28 Jun 1885 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
    Louisa Townson - [Child] of Cornelius Townson & Bridget
    Abode: Barrow
    Occupation: Plumber
    Baptised by: J. S. Doxey, Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1888, Page 141
    Source: LDS Film 1471099

    Marriage: 5 Aug 1899 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
    George Chambelain - 24, Labourer, Bachelor, Whalley
    Harriet Heath - 19, Spinster, Barrow in Whalley
    Groom's Father: George Chambelain, Deceased, Registrar
    Bride's Father: Cornelius Townson, Painter
    Witness: James Chamberlain; Jane Townson
    Married by Banns by: T H Gregory, Vicar
    Register: Marriages 1880 - 1900, Page 119, Entry 237
    Source: LDS Film 1471150
    Last edited by Elizabeth Herts; 15-07-18, 17:40.
    Elizabeth
    Research Interests:
    England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
    Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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      #22
      How curious! Banns were read 3 times at St James Clitheroe for Cornelius and Margaret, yet they married at Manchester Cathedral. He is described as of Clitheroe, she is of Manchester.

      OC

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        #23
        Burial: 25 Nov 1875 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
        Margaret Jane Townson -
        Age: 23 yrs
        Abode: Clitheroe
        Buried by: I Downham
        Register: Burials 1840 - 1897, Page 73, Entry 578
        Source: LDS Film 1471152

        Burial: 23 Feb 1876 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
        Margaret Jane Townson -
        Age: 3 mos
        Abode: Clitheroe
        Buried by: I Downham
        Register: Burials 1840 - 1897, Page 75, Entry 594
        Source: LDS Film 1471152

        Burial: 6 Aug 1883 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
        Emma Townson - Daughter of Cornelius Townson
        Age: 11 months
        Abode: Barrow
        Buried by: H. T. Hutchinson, Curate
        Register: Burials 1878 - 1891, Page 44, Entry 348
        Source: LDS Film 1471099


        Burial: 26 Jan 1887 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
        Bridget Townson - Wife of Cornelius Townson
        Age: 29
        Abode: Barrow, Whalley
        Buried by: C. C. Prichard
        Register: Burials 1878 - 1891, Page 70, Entry 554
        Source: LDS Film 1471099

        Elizabeth
        Research Interests:
        England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
        Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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          #24
          Baptism: 12 Oct 1851 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - [Child] of George Townson & Jane
          Born: 15 Sep 1851
          Abode: Grimshaw Street, Clitheroe
          Occupation: Painter
          Baptised by: Wm Whitworth
          Register: Baptims 1839 - 1869, Page 43, Entry 339
          Source: LDS Film 1471152

          Banns: St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - This Parish
          Margaret Morris - Manchester
          First Reading: 19 Oct 1873; Read By: G Fielden
          Second Reading: 26 Oct 1873; Read By: G Fielden
          Third Reading: 2 Nov 1873; Read By: G Fielden
          Register: Banns 1861 - 1900, Page 50, Entry 100
          Source: LDS Film 1471152

          Banns: St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - Widower, Clitheroe
          Bridget Hargreaves - Spinster, Barrow
          First Reading: 27 Oct 1878; Read By: Robert Parkinson
          Second Reading: 3 Nov 1878; Read By: Robert Parkinson
          Third Reading: 10 Nov 1878; Read By: Robert Parkinson
          Register: Banns of Marriage 1852 - 1887, Page 247, Entry 254
          Source: LDS Film 1471150

          Banns: St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - This Parish
          Bridget Hargreaves - The Parish of Whalley
          First Reading: 27 Oct 1878; Read By: G Fielden
          Second Reading: 3 Nov 1878; Read By: G Fielden
          Third Reading: 10 Nov 1878; Read By: G Fielden
          Register: Banns 1861 - 1900, Page 89, Entry 178
          Source: LDS Film 1471152

          Marriage: 12 Nov 1878 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - 28, Painter, Widower, Clitheroe
          Bridget Townson - 22, Spinster, Whalley
          Groom's Father: George Townson, Painter
          Bride's Father: Robert Townson, Innkeeper
          Witness: James Dewhurst; Esther Ann Townson
          Married by Banns by: G Fielden, Rector
          Register: Marriages 1861 - 1896, Page 82, Entry 164
          Source: LDS Film 1471152

          Banns: St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - This Parish
          Charlotte Alice Heath - St James Parish
          First Reading: 26 Jan 1890; Read By: C T Buchanan
          Second Reading: 2 Feb 1890; Read By: C T Buchanan
          Third Reading: 9 Feb 1890; Read By: C T Buchanan
          Register: Banns 1876 - 1900, Page 193, Entry 297
          Source: LDS Film 1278859

          Banns: St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - St Mary's Parish
          Charlotte Alice Heath - This Paish
          First Reading: 26 Jan 1890; Read By: E Ince
          Second Reading: 2 Feb 1890; Read By: E Ince
          Third Reading: 9 Feb 1890; Read By: E Ince
          Notes: Paid
          Register: Banns 1861 - 1900, Page 174, Entry 328
          Source: LDS Film 1471152

          Marriage: 15 Feb 1890 St James, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
          Cornelius Townson - 39, Plumber, Widower, Brownlow St, Clitheroe
          Charlotte Alice Heath - 38, Warper, Spinster, Brownlow St, Clitheroe
          Groom's Father: George Townson, Plumber
          Bride's Father: Robert Heath, Designer
          Witness: Edward Lord; Ada Louisa Heath
          Married by Banns by: E Ince
          Register: Marriages 1861 - 1896, Page 185, Entry 369
          Source: LDS Film 1471152
          Elizabeth
          Research Interests:
          England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
          Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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            #25
            Originally posted by Olde Crone Holden View Post
            How curious! Banns were read 3 times at St James Clitheroe for Cornelius and Margaret, yet they married at Manchester Cathedral. He is described as of Clitheroe, she is of Manchester.

            OC
            I thought they called the banns in both parishes?
            Elizabeth
            Research Interests:
            England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
            Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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              #26
              It seems that Charlotte Alice Heath had a baby before she was married:

              HEATH, HARRIET -
              GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in CLITHEROE Volume 08E Page 318

              Cornelius seems to be claiming her as his own.



              Marriage: 5 Aug 1899 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
              George Chambelain - 24, Labourer, Bachelor, Whalley
              Harriet Heath - 19, Spinster, Barrow in Whalley
              Groom's Father: George Chambelain, Deceased, Registrar
              Bride's Father: Cornelius Townson, Painter
              Witness: James Chamberlain; Jane Townson
              Married by Banns by: T H Gregory, Vicar
              Register: Marriages 1880 - 1900, Page 119, Entry 237
              Source: LDS Film 1471150


              Elizabeth
              Research Interests:
              England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
              Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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                #27
                They are on the 1939 Register with Charlotte (Ancestry wants to tell me that this is the 1900 US Census!).

                https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true
                Elizabeth
                Research Interests:
                England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
                Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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                  #28
                  Ah yes, I am so used to banns NOT being read in Manchester Cathedral I assumed they weren't in this case either.

                  Many many of my family were married in Manchester Cathedral and most of them have mistakes on their marriage certificates so nothing on a Manchester Cathedral marriage certificate can be taken as accurate, in my experience.

                  OC

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Elizabeth Herts View Post
                    It seems that Charlotte Alice Heath had a baby before she was married:

                    HEATH, HARRIET -
                    GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in CLITHEROE Volume 08E Page 318

                    Cornelius seems to be claiming her as his own.



                    Marriage: 5 Aug 1899 St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire, England
                    George Chambelain - 24, Labourer, Bachelor, Whalley
                    Harriet Heath - 19, Spinster, Barrow in Whalley
                    Groom's Father: George Chambelain, Deceased, Registrar
                    Bride's Father: Cornelius Townson, Painter
                    Witness: James Chamberlain; Jane Townson
                    Married by Banns by: T H Gregory, Vicar
                    Register: Marriages 1880 - 1900, Page 119, Entry 237
                    Source: LDS Film 1471150


                    Harriet was born in 1880 and Cornelius and Charlotte married in 1890. I think on the marriage Cornelius could probably mean he is her stepfather. Harriet Heath was living with her maternal grandparents in 1891.

                    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

                    1881 Census:
                    https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...1%2f0019316874
                    Elizabeth
                    Research Interests:
                    England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
                    Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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