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    Elizabeth Coole born 1844

    Yes, I have put this request on other sites but with a fresh pair of eyes Elizabeth may be found.

    Elizabeth Coole 1844-1940 Bristol, parents John and Elinor Coole. In 1866 Elizabeth married William Charles Trott b 1841 Bristol. They have no children at least none that I can find. On the 1871 census they have a Niece Florence Coole staying with them (the census spells Florence's surname as Cook) William is a Shipwright. In 1877 William dies.

    In 1891 Elizabeth is living with her sister Matilda in Bristol.
    In 1901 Elizabeth is living with her mother Elenor in Bristol
    In 1911 Elizabeth is living on her own in Bristol.

    But where was Elizabeth in 1881?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    siamese

    #2
    hi do you have william's death cert at all? [I was wondering if she registered his death and if it gave a place of residence]
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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      #3
      Not at present, have just ordered one for William's parents marriage, so William's death certificate will be the next. I have found a death reg on ancestry in 1877 Bristol, but its for a Charles thinking he may of dropped his first name. As a shipwright its possible he died aboard?

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        #4
        Originally posted by siamesewillow View Post
        Not at present, have just ordered one for William's parents marriage, so William's death certificate will be the next. I have found a death reg on ancestry in 1877 Bristol, but its for a Charles thinking he may of dropped his first name. As a shipwright its possible he died aboard?
        not sure but I think a shipwright was a ship builder, so I wouldn't have thought he'd die abroad. From looking in the census he does seem to stay in Bristol area though.
        Julie
        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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          #5
          presumably you have found William's baptism and marriage on Ancestry?
          Julie
          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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            #6
            I have found only one death record for a William Trott in Bedminster dist in 1885, though this one I don't think is 'your' william I think it is the cab driver william that was living in Bedminster dist in 1881.

            here: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=8914
            Last edited by Darksecretz; 11-09-15, 13:12.
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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              #7
              Name: Charles Trott
              Estimated birth year: abt 1843
              Registration Year: 1877
              Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
              Age at Death: 34
              Registration district: Bristol
              Volume: 6a
              Page: 17

              which could correspond with:

              Name: Charles Trott
              Burial Date: 8 May 1877
              Burial Place: Bristol, Holy Trinity, St Philip, Gloucestershire, England
              Burial Age: 34
              FHL Film Number: 4183229

              then there is this one:

              Name: Charles Trott
              Estimated birth year: abt 1846
              Registration Year: 1877
              Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
              Age at Death: 31
              Registration district: Bristol
              Volume: 6a
              Page: 17

              which isn't very helpful!
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                #8
                I have both the birth and marriage certificate for William Charles Trott, born and married in Bristol, although his father came from Somerset and Mother Wales.

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                  #9
                  Name: William Charles Trott
                  Gender: Male
                  Christening Date: 30 May 1841
                  Christening Place: TEMPLE, BRISTOL, GLOUCESTER, ENGLAND
                  Birth Date:
                  Birthplace:
                  Death Date:
                  Name Note:
                  Race:
                  Father's Name: John Trott
                  Father's Birthplace:
                  Father's Age:
                  Mother's Name: Charlotte
                  Mother's Birthplace:
                  Mother's Age:
                  Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C17295-4
                  System Origin: England-ODM
                  GS Film number: 1597124
                  Reference ID:

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                    #10
                    yep I saw his bapt and his marriage transcripts on Ancestry.... [was kinda hoping that I may find a burial there too but that didn't happen!]
                    Julie
                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                      #11
                      have you seen the two workhouse entries for W C Trott b.1843 and in a workhouse 1904 his occupation is carpenter, I can't spot him yet though on the census.
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                        #12
                        http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...v=1&ml_rpos=20

                        http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...v=1&ml_rpos=21
                        Julie
                        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                          #13
                          Hi siamese,

                          I hope you can get some fresh help here to find your elusive, nice to see you back here again looking for help

                          Edna

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                            #14
                            I've saved that workhouse entry, may be useful. Thanks.

                            On the 1891 census Elizabeth is described a Wid. But if the marriage was no more she may say she was a widow.

                            siamese

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                              #15
                              At the end of the day I am going to have to order 2 death certs even if it's just to eliminate them. Mind you one at a time.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by siamesewillow View Post
                                I've saved that workhouse entry, may be useful. Thanks.

                                On the 1891 census Elizabeth is described a Wid. But if the marriage was no more she may say she was a widow.

                                siamese
                                That's true she could have stated being a widow just to 'save face' [if that is her W C in the workhouse!] oh dear that does look bad doesn't it? a WC in the workhouse

                                Originally posted by siamesewillow View Post
                                At the end of the day I am going to have to order 2 death certs even if it's just to eliminate them. Mind you one at a time.
                                hmmn, I am very tempted to say to go for Charles first, as that was the more likely looking one. BUT I have just thought, you are in Cheltenham I know that it isn't that far from Bristol, [praps an hour? half? by car] what if you contacted the church for the burial of Charles and see if it gives any additional info? [ie 'husband of' ]


                                scratch that idea, seems the church is no longer in use as a church! though I did find this:

                                http://search.findmypast.co.uk/searc...ndex-1625-1950

                                but I also think that if you find a local studies library that has parish records for Holy Trinity, St Phils on fiche then you can go through the records and see if it is him.
                                Julie
                                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                                  #17
                                  have you looked through here to see if there is anything?

                                  http://www.genfair.co.uk/product_lis...22&page=102124
                                  Julie
                                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                                    #18
                                    "http://www.genfair.co.uk/product_lis...22&page=102124"

                                    Yes I have only get Charles died 1877. I subscribe to the Bristol and Avon family history so I'll contact them. I have visited the Bristol RO but not a easy place to get to,(do not drive)

                                    siamese

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                                      #19
                                      With the name Coole, and the fact that there is a large number of Pooles all in that area
                                      I would suggest a think outside the box and check to see if any mis-transcriptions to Poole may have occurred in that family name
                                      Avatar is my Gt Grandfather

                                      Researching:
                                      FRANKLIN (Harrow/Pinner 1700 to 1850); PURSGLOVE (ALL Southern counties of England); POOLE (Tetbury/Malmesbury and surrounding areas of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire (1650 to 1900); READ London/Suffolk

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                                        #20
                                        TrevorFranklin

                                        Its Coole not Pooles I'M RESEARCHING

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