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  • Help with death of grandfather, Thomas Wilson

    Hi

    I am very much hoping someone can sort this one out for me, as I have a cousin who found out what I believe to be information that is in error. Unfortunately, we don't know exactly when he died, but do know that he lies in the Kensel Green cemetery in London.

    To turn to exactly what information we have:

    Thomas Wilson was born in Hull in 1890
    He married Lilias Helen Smith in 1919 in Derby and they divorced in about 1932

    I know with absolute certainty that my grandmother died on 5 September 1939
    Unfortunately I cant narrow down the death of my grandfather, as the name Thomas Wilson is quite common. What I perceive to be the wrong death is the occupation was wrong. My mother made some rough notes and the Kensel Green cemetery seems to tie in with my grandfather being a stanch Catholic. My mother did say that "auntie" came to stay with my parents at their house in Surrey, which had to be after 1954/55 when they left Cornwall. She could not remember exactly when her father died as she was having to take my sister for hospital appointments, though they may have been maternity appointments for me as I was on my way. She did say she saw my grand dad laid out at home, she thought he lived at College Road, London but again, her memory was sketchy but the latest it could have been was 1958 early 1959.

    My grand father was the eldest of eight children, on one census he was recorded as Thomas Welson rather than Wilson. My Mum thought he might well have served as a major in the army but was unsure, he did all the stationery for some of the big hotels around the country, as she had vague memories of accompanying him. He was on business with his brother in law in Wallasey, Liverpool so I was told.

    Sadly my mother has passed away so I can't ask her for more information but my cousin and I would like to know about our grandfather out of sheer nosiness and hope someone has to expertise to help us on the right path.

  • #2
    Which certificate have you got Lorraine? There is one that is very close to Kensal Green Cemetery and also close to College Road London.
    Thomas Wilson - Birth Date abt 1890 - Date of Registration Mar 1957 - Age at Death 67 - Registration district Willesden - County Middlesex - Volume 5f - Page 313
    Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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    • #3
      http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/17...l=ReturnRecord

      There is a Thomas Wilson on the Electoral Register for Willesden West 1954

      living at 116a College Road (ref 885)

      Vera
      Last edited by vera2013; 15-06-15, 18:14.

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      • #4
        https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

        There is a summary of a cremation for a

        Thomas Wilson 21st February 1957 at the West London Crematorium, Kensal Green. Further details are available for a fee

        Vera

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        • #5
          My cousin applied for the certificate not me, so I will have to ask him. He told me that the death certificate he applied for showed the deceased to work for the GPO and if I remember rightly he had a wife still living and I am sure this indicates it wasn't our grandfather as he definitely had a lady friend not a wife when he died. I will e-mail him to ask tomorrow and hopefully I will get some answers

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          • #6
            The lady friend may have said she was his wife if she registered the death. She would not have had to prove it, although she would have been committing an offence! I think you need to see the wording of the certificate so you can decide on all the details for yourself. And maybe let folks on here make comments about it too.

            Anne
            Last edited by Anne in Carlisle; 16-06-15, 07:33.

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            • #7
              Also, many people THOUGHT (wrongly) that if they had cohabited for a long time, they were man and wife in common law, so the declaration that she was wife might not have been a deliberate lie. And - how do you definitely know he didn't marry a second time?

              OC

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Chrissie Smiff View Post
                Which certificate have you got Lorraine? There is one that is very close to Kensal Green Cemetery and also close to College Road London.
                Thomas Wilson - Birth Date abt 1890 - Date of Registration Mar 1957 - Age at Death 67 - Registration district Willesden - County Middlesex - Volume 5f - Page 313
                From the brilliant information that Vera has found Lorriane the above cert is looking quite promising. If the one your cousin sent for isn't this one I would definitely want to see this death cert.
                Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                • #9
                  http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/19...l=ReturnRecord

                  There is also a Thomas Wilson appointed to the London Postal Region as a Postman in April 1951.

                  No address unfortunately.

                  Electoral roll registers show what could be a Mrs Wilson at the College Road address as far back as 1947. She does not appear after 1950/51. There is also another lady at the same address from 1947 who remains there for many years and is alone at the address by the time of the 1959 census. Not sure if either of these ladies are still alive at this time.

                  Vera

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