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    #21
    Re Post #7

    It looks like Lena and Grace are sisters. They both came to USA in 1896. Grace could be anglicised Polish name Grazyna. have searched 1896 US passenger lists but cannot find anything that fits.
    Kat
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      #22
      I think Lena & Grace are sisters too & wonder if they named daughters after each other.
      However, I can't find them in earlier census, even though the children are recorded as born in NJ.

      As yet, haven't had any luck finding them in post 1910 census either.

      Jay
      Janet in Yorkshire



      Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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        #23
        Grace Franks remarried in 1930, perhaps?

        https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4F1-D29

        and in 1940

        https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3....61:n1023628197

        Jay
        Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 12-10-13, 15:48.
        Janet in Yorkshire



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          #24
          http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/78...l=ReturnRecord

          This is the Joseph, (Miotti) a Boarder on Jay's Post 7. 1910 census

          Vera
          Last edited by vera2013; 12-10-13, 15:53.

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            #25
            This is Lena Munz in 1900 with husband Anton and children Clara and Francis ( last entry on census sheet) as in the 1910. She says immigration was 1892 not 1896 as the other census so will have a look see.

            http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...try&h=32092392
            Kat
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              #26
              http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=7602

              http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=2539
              This looks like Clara's christenings so mother not a Bejerlein

              Vera
              Last edited by vera2013; 12-10-13, 17:32.

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                #27
                Would someone be kind enough to post details of the bp in #26 please? The link won't open with my Ancestry minimum package.

                Jay
                Janet in Yorkshire



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                  #28
                  Both New Jersey Births and Christening Index 1660-1931

                  Claram Crescentiam MUNZ

                  Female

                  born 23/07/1896 Elizabeth, Union, NJ

                  bap 09/08/1896 Elizabeth, Union, NJ

                  Father Antonio Munz

                  Mother Magdalena Sommer

                  and

                  Klara MUNZ

                  Female

                  Born 23/07/1897

                  Elizabeth, Union, NJ

                  f Antone Munz aged 27 born Germany

                  m Matalina Summer aged 23 born Germany

                  Vera
                  Last edited by vera2013; 12-10-13, 18:46.

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                    #29
                    Hi,

                    i found "new" person. Maria and Michalina probably had a sister - I didn't found her in polish documents earlier.

                    This is she: Helena Beyerlein, born 1868. She had a illegitimate daughter Helena (born 1889).

                    I found Helena Bayerlein arrived to USA in 1893, age: 24 - it can be she. Maybe her name was Mounce and Maria arrived in 1898 to she?
                    Last edited by flaneur87; 12-10-13, 20:05.

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                      #30
                      Where did you find this information? Post #29
                      Where was she born?
                      What Polish/German documents have you been looking at to find these sisters originally?
                      Please let us have the sources when you post - it can be most helpful.
                      Last edited by Katarzyna; 12-10-13, 20:13.
                      Kat
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                        #31
                        First in registration file in Poznan, Poland. Second here (number 194): http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/po...many&line=0194

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                          #32
                          Originally posted by flaneur87 View Post
                          Hi,

                          i found "new" person. Maria and Michalina probably had a sister - I didn't found her in polish documents earlier.

                          This is she: Helena Beyerlein, born 1868. She had a illegitimate daughter Helena (born 1889).

                          I found Helena Bayerlein arrived to USA in 1893, age: 24 - it can be she. Maybe her name was Mounce and Maria arrived in 1898 to she?
                          Lena is probably short for Helena.
                          This is possibly the one we have already found on 1900 census in Post #25. Have you looked at that? Born 1869 (ok 1 year out) arrived 1893
                          No daughter Helena but she could have died? How do you know about the daughter?
                          Last edited by Katarzyna; 12-10-13, 20:24.
                          Kat
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                            #33
                            I can't open link from Post #25, my ancestry's access it to little.

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                              #34
                              In Post #26 Vera wrote Clara's mother didn't name Beyerlein. Understand I good?

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                                #35
                                Helena on Passenger List.
                                http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...=8+9&ml_rpos=1
                                Last edited by Katarzyna; 12-10-13, 20:37.
                                Kat
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                                  #36
                                  I can't open ancestry with my access :(

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                                    #37
                                    Lena Munz
                                    [Dena Munz]
                                    26
                                    Oct 1873
                                    Germany
                                    Elizabeth Ward 12, Union, New Jersey
                                    White
                                    Female
                                    1892
                                    Wife
                                    Married
                                    Anton Munz
                                    1895
                                    5
                                    Germany
                                    Germany
                                    3
                                    3
                                    View on Image
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                                    1900 CENSUS
                                    Last edited by Katarzyna; 12-10-13, 20:54.
                                    Kat
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                                      #38
                                      Name: Lena Munce
                                      Titles and Terms:
                                      Event Type: Census
                                      Event Year: 1910
                                      Event Place: Roselle Park, Union, New Jersey, United States
                                      District: 107
                                      Gender: Female
                                      Age: 36
                                      Marital Status: Married
                                      Race: White
                                      Race (Original): White
                                      Relationship to Head of Household: Sister-in-law
                                      Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Sister-in-law
                                      Birth Year (Estimated): 1874
                                      Birthplace: Germany
                                      Immigration Year: 1896
                                      Father's Birthplace: Germany
                                      Mother's Birthplace: Germany
                                      Sheet Number and Letter: 7B
                                      Household ID: 149
                                      Line Number:
                                      Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
                                      Affiliate Publication Number: M1283
                                      GS Film number: 1374924
                                      Digital Folder Number: 004330934
                                      Image Number: 00077
                                      Household Gender Age Birthplace
                                      Head Emil Frank M 37 Germany
                                      Wife Grace Frank F 28 Germany
                                      Daughter Lena Frank F 11 New Jersey
                                      Daughter Bertha Frank F 8 New Jersey
                                      Son Emil Frank M 7 New Jersey
                                      Son Harry Frank M 6 New Jersey
                                      Son Walter Frank M 4 New Jersey
                                      Daughter Josephine Frank F 0 New Jersey
                                      Boarder Joseph M 36 France
                                      Sister-in-law Lena Munce F 36 Germany
                                      Niece Clara G Munce F 14 New Jersey
                                      Nephew Francis Munce M 10 New Jersey
                                      Nephew Arthur Munce M 9 New Jersey
                                      Nephew Anton Munce M 8 New Jersey
                                      1910 CENSUS
                                      I thought maybe Lena's sister Grace took Helena's ilegitimate daughter in as Lena Frank? She would be the right age.

                                      However Vera's posting on the christenings seem to eliminate this road. Looks like we will have to start all over again :(
                                      Last edited by Katarzyna; 12-10-13, 21:05.
                                      Kat
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                                        #39
                                        Thx. Think this is Helena? On ellisisland was she arrived in 1893... And born 1868 or 1869.
                                        Last edited by flaneur87; 12-10-13, 20:55.

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                                          #40
                                          Is this the baptism you have for Helena:
                                          • father:Heinr. Beyerlein
                                          • mother:Emilie Luehrmann

                                          • NameHelene Henriette Beyerlein
                                          • GenderFemale
                                          • Christening Date19 Mar 1874
                                          • Christening PlaceSANKT PETRI EVANGELISCH, DORTMUND, WESTFALEN, PRUSSIA
                                          • Birth Date29 Jan 1874
                                          • Birthplace
                                          • Death Date
                                          • Name Note
                                          • Race
                                          • Father's NameHeinr. Beyerlein
                                          • Father's Birthplace
                                          • Father's Age
                                          • Mother's NameEmilie Luehrmann
                                          • Mother's Birthplace
                                          • Mother's Age
                                          • Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC97512-4
                                          • System OriginGermany-VR
                                          • GS Film number560323
                                          • Reference ID2:10BF4ZJ

                                          Kat
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