Leicester to France and back again

[taffyfrog]

Great when things start tying up. Just ask if you think I can be of any more help.

[Elaine]

I just couldn't work out how to save the page! Really appreciate you looking, spent all night having a look round, shame I am off to work today!

[Janet in Yorkshire]

I just couldn't work out how to save the page! Really appreciate you looking, spent all night having a look round, shame I am off to work today!

Can't even hazard a guess as to what you'll be up to today then! Sorry - misread that as "I am OFF WORK today" !!

[taffyfrog]

I just couldn't work out how to save the page! Really appreciate you looking, spent all night having a look round, shame I am off to work today!

Did you manage as the most I've ever managed was a tiddly screen shot...

[Elaine]

I took a photo with my phone in the end after blowing it up on screen as much as possible then just cleaned it up a bit

Jacques Edmond 1838.jpg

[taffyfrog]

I took a photo with my phone in the end after blowing it up on screen as much as possible then just cleaned it up a bit

[ATTACH=CONFIG]16810[/ATTACH]

Good clean up. Before these records were digitised and made available we used to trot down to Lille Departmental Archives - hubby with tripod for his camera - call up the microfiche - set up the spool on the microfiche reader - and take photo. When I say 'used to' I mean about 3 years ago. The French Departmental Archives around France are coming on leaps and bounds these days in digitising the actual records and making them freely available - that's how it should be - these are public records after all.

[Elaine]

It was amazing having a look at the detail, I hadn't discovered the actual entries so again many thanks for your help;D

[taffyfrog]

I am pretty sure the reason your family came here was to do with the textile industry

[Elaine]

I am sure they did since looking, some of them go into the shoe trade on returning. They are only related by a possible marriage but they have certainly been very interesting!

[PascalMallet]

Bonjour Elaine, I just subscribed yesterday because some of my ancestors came from Leics. (Quorn). They came in Calais in the 1820's as they were tulle machine makers and had to escape from England. My great grand-mother was named Clara HALL and was born in Calais in 1847 and she's buried there. My late father began to search for her parents and the only thing he got was a parish record dated 1823 but with very few détails (comparing to what we got here at the same time, but we have not parish records since 1790-1792 and files are much more complete). So I need some help for my researches around Leicester. The family names I already know are Hall, Farrands, Godber, Stanley, and Butler (I found those names in Paris national archives as Clara's father has become French, and also because he protected some ideas to improve lace production). On the other side, I am going in Lille next week as my father's French ancestors came from this area, and maybe I can help you too. I already got all what I can on AD59 (department n°59 archives) website and now I have to go there to search in notary records to find marriage contracts (if any), wills, and inventories after death which are full of information. That material is not in Internet. On the AD59 website http://www.archivesdepartementales.c...rchives_online there is also something very useful and interesting called "Matricules militaires" where you can find a lot of information about a French man, such as physical details, level of instruction, addresses from 20 to 40 year old (very useful to search for his children), and sometimes if he got problems with Justice. If you are interested, I will tell you how to proceed. Pascal

[Darksecretz]

I just couldn't work out how to save the page! Really appreciate you looking, spent all night having a look round, shame I am off to work today!

Elaine, if you are using win7 type in 'snip' in the searchbox on your start menu. it will allow you to capture images etc straight from where you need them from then you can save that image anywhere on your puter. x

[Elaine ..Spain]

Bonjour Elaine, I just subscribed yesterday because some of my ancestors came from Leics. (Quorn). They came in Calais in the 1820's as they were tulle machine makers and had to escape from England. My great grand-mother was named Clara HALL and was born in Calais in 1847 and she's buried there. My late father began to search for her parents and the only thing he got was a parish record dated 1823 but with very few détails (comparing to what we got here at the same time, but we have not parish records since 1790-1792 and files are much more complete). So I need some help for my researches around Leicester. The family names I already know are Hall, Farrands, Godber, Stanley, and Butler (I found those names in Paris national archives as Clara's father has become French, and also because he protected some ideas to improve lace production). On the other side, I am going in Lille next week as my father's French ancestors came from this area, and maybe I can help you too. I already got all what I can on AD59 (department n°59 archives) website and now I have to go there to search in notary records to find marriage contracts (if any), wills, and inventories after death which are full of information. That material is not in Internet. On the AD59 website http://www.archivesdepartementales.c...rchives_online there is also something very useful and interesting called "Matricules militaires" where you can find a lot of information about a French man, such as physical details, level of instruction, addresses from 20 to 40 year old (very useful to search for his children), and sometimes if he got problems with Justice. If you are interested, I will tell you how to proceed. Pascal

Pascal, welcome to the forum. It's always good to get tips on researching in other countries so hopefully your link will help members who might be looking for ancestors from France.

You said you would like help with your Leicester research. Rather than people trying to help you on this thread, and replies getting mixed up with those for Elaine (not me .. the Elaine that started this thread!), can I suggest you start a new thread of your own and hopefully some of our members may be able to help and make suggestions of what Leicester records might be available.

[Elaine]

Bonjour Pascal

I would love to help you with anything in Leicester as I have a lot of info to access which might help so please list anything you might want to follow up. The Clays are in the English papers a lot so any help would be great and I am looking for Hurst's from Leicester too.

Look forward to hearing from you
a bientot
Elaine

[PascalMallet]

Bonjour Elaine, Thank you for your reply. As suggested by Elaine, administrator, I will open a new thread for my own matter, and let you know. About Clays and Hurst's families, I will do some researches but can you be more precise (years, areas)? Though almost all French records are now online, the departmental archives are sorted by town, not by department (same as English counties). As a subscriber to www.geneanet.org, I ask for those two names in North of France, and I got no Hurst (but a lot in the East, showing that it could be a German name, with no connection with the ones you're searching for). On the opposite, there are a lot of Clay's. You may go yourself on that website, as there is a English version. Bonne journée. Pascal Question: as my [Return] key doesn't work here, how to do to change line?

[Elaine]

Bonjour Pascal

I do have a lot on the Hursts from Leicester so not to worry with regards to French records too much, was hoping you could keep the surname in mind as you look more than anything. My Hursts are a bit patchy 1800's to 1840, mainly Charles who marries in Suffolk 1809 before returning to Leicester 1810

Look forward to helping you when you start the new thread

[taffyfrog]

To follow on from Pascal - if you know where the event took place (ie town/village)- then look up the corresponding department number -e.g. Lille is in Department 59 so look up 'archives départementales 59' - then all the towns etc will be listed. Once in they are a pure wonder in terms of detail compared to English civil registration -makes you wonder what would have happened with our records if Napoleon had conquered England- in some cases we would probably have the dates and places where the grandparents of the bride and groom died - have also seen this when researching my husband's tree

[kylejustin]

i love it, i have marriages in france in the late 1600's that mention the parents names in the entry. this tends to vary in the departments though. i have some marriages in 1710 that mention parents, and some from that year that don't. you look at the records in england at the same time your lucky if anything more than the names and the date are written.

and birth records are very detailed. deaths in the 18th century tend to be short biographies of people too! their husbands or wives names, where they are from if not from the parish originally, their occupations, and wittnesses to the burial.

[Elaine]

I was amazed how much information they gave and my daugther will be home this week to translate

[PascalMallet]

I was in Lille last week but Archives were closed as they move to another building (same address). So I can't search for anything that time. For your information, it is only open on Mondays and Tuesdays (up to October), but some series are not available. I will probably go again in early July. Feel free to ask me if you can't read or understand a word on the records you already got.

[Elaine]

Thanks Pascal, my daughter did me proud and I'm OK thanks, how is your Leicester stuff looking?