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    What happened to Joseph after 1901?

    I have a Joseph Thomas born in Stockton-on-tees and I have him in the 1881 census- doesn't say his age- i think he's 11 months as I have an 1881ish birth for him, he's not on the actual census but he's on the computerised one. Proof below marked as crop 1 added in this thread and 2 in another.

    I have him in the 1891 census aged 10 and in 1901 he's 20 but after that he disappears.
    Does anyone fancy the challenge of trying to find him?

    Crop 1.
    CROP1.jpg
    Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

    I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

    #2
    CROP2.jpg
    Crop 2
    Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

    I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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      #3
      Are you sure that one isn't Jacob Thomas born June 1870 Stockton?
      Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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        #4
        Nup, Jacob is his brother. I have a picture of him here.
        Plus Jacob is in earlier census records and bother Joseph & Jacob are in the 1891 census.
        Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

        I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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          #5
          I could be totally off the mark but have you spotted a John in a later 'census' from Thornaby with the Vinder family, there is a poss other John from Thornaby in Middlesborough, a potter's printer, wonder what you think as this John is still in Stockton
          Last edited by Elaine; 19-03-13, 19:49.
          Elaine

          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

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            #6
            I spotted a John Joseph marraige and census but i'm sure he doesn't have a middle name. I went back to Stockton Roots and there's 2 birth records for Joseph & Jacob, there's an entry in 1870 & 1880 for both of them.
            Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

            I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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              #7
              The marriage 1901 is a John Joseph to Rose Phillips or Elizabeth O'Connor, was just flicking between births as well!
              Elaine

              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                #8
                Is Jacob a Chapman or is that all sorted
                Elaine

                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                  #9
                  That my dear Elaine is a mystery. In birth it's Thomas, a census says Chapman, another census has different children for Evan (Father) and there's no proven marraige for Evan & Mary. We have a thoery that they said they were married to spare the shame of having children out of wedlock as Mary is noted as the servant in one census.

                  The John Joseph- I'm hoping it's NOT a Phillips as the only sister Emily married George Phillips. I haven't found a Rose yet though.
                  Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

                  I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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                    #10
                    Do you know who James Thomas is with Alfred Chapman
                    Last edited by Elaine; 19-03-13, 20:37.
                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
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                      #11
                      Your guess is as good as mine.
                      To make this easier I'm posting the main family.

                      Parents- Evan Thomas & Mary Chapman
                      Children: Alfred Chapman Thomas
                      Jacob Chapman Thomas
                      Thomas Thomas
                      Joseph Thomas
                      Emily Thomas

                      Now I have the family of Emily as she's my great grandmother, Jacob and I've just found 3 children for Thomas but I'm sure there's more so it may be that as I have got hints through Mundia that shows 2 more children that are listed as private.
                      Last edited by lennon2011; 19-03-13, 20:45.
                      Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

                      I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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                        #12
                        Sorry with Pinder he married Jane Irven
                        Elaine

                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                          #13
                          I think James is William's son, ie William with the Chapman's

                          1901
                          RG13; Piece: 4584; Folio: 109; Page: 13

                          1891
                          RG12; Piece: 4050; Folio: 45; Page: 33

                          or maybe not, mother with them 1881, this is just going by James Stockton so head down again!
                          Last edited by Elaine; 19-03-13, 20:55.
                          Elaine

                          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                          http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                          http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                            #14
                            Hello,

                            How about this in the 1911 ?

                            Joseph Thomas, 30, fitters labourer ( ship engineer trade )
                            Annie , 25, married 3 years
                            John Alfred , 2
                            Josepn 4 months

                            All born Stockton on Tees.

                            Address 5 Oxford Street, S. on Tees

                            bcbrit
                            George, Uren, Toy - Cornwall. Barrows, Blair, Bowyer, Freeth, Green, Manie - London

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                              #15
                              Funny I'd just print screened to show you the other Thomas names:
                              CROP3.jpg
                              I have no idea who the other children actually are. When I tried to find out I got the name Elizabeth Morgan as their mother but there's one little problem with that- it's the name of Evan's mother. Then I found that Evan's father was also named Evan and that 2 more children were born but they were named Thomas & Richard- I have their families.
                              Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

                              I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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                                #16
                                If that is the correct Joseph in the 1911 census, then this could be his marriage.

                                Joseph Thomas
                                Annie Doherty
                                March Q 1908
                                Stockton 10a - 120

                                bcbrit
                                George, Uren, Toy - Cornwall. Barrows, Blair, Bowyer, Freeth, Green, Manie - London

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                                  #17
                                  Marriage

                                  THOMAS Joseph Stockton Durham 1908 Jan-Feb-Mar to DOHERTY, Annie
                                  Last edited by Elaine; 19-03-13, 21:14.
                                  Elaine

                                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

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                                    #18
                                    snap:D
                                    Elaine

                                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                      #19
                                      wait there's an annie/joseph census in 1911 but due to the job description i thought it was a foreign joseph- Assistant Nelpeer Fraces.
                                      When I did a search for that I got a lot of foreign text up.
                                      Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

                                      I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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                                        #20
                                        If that census is Joseph then it means that both Joseph & Jacob named their children John Alfred. I'm starting to wonder if the picture I have for Jacob's John is in fact Joseph's John..
                                        Lennon. Phillips. Thomas. Peacock. Tubridy. Burton.

                                        I am the girl from that town & I'm darn proud of it.

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