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    Samuel Kirkman marriage

    I had put this to one side and was a little while ago, 'given' a maiden for Samuel's wife, no marriage sourced, Samuel was born in Barlestone and have him in census's when in England...for background

    1851 Census HO107/ 2090 Folio: 405 Pg 26
    With father and siblings

    British Army Service Records 1760-1913
    First name(s): Samuel
    Last name: KIRKMAN
    Private
    Discharge corps: 1st Battn 5th Regt Of Fusiliers
    Discharge soldier number: 216
    The National Archives reference: WO97 / 2015 / 199
    Intended place to live Rotherham, Yorkshire
    Discharge 5th Decmber 1879

    1881 Census RG11/ 4673 Folio: 11 Pg 16
    Living at 107 School Street, Rotherham, Yorkshire
    John Kirkman Head Mar Age 50 Occupation Coal Miner Born YORKS ROTHERHAM
    Mary A. Kirkman Wife Age 62 Coal Miners Wife Born YORKS ROTHERHAM
    Samuel Kirkman Brother U Age 42 Chelsea Pensioner Leicesters BAILESTONE

    1891 Census RG12/ 2542 Folio: 61 Pg 15
    Living at 5 Court D Jewry Wall St, St Nicholas, Leicester
    Samuel Kirkman Head M Age 52 Occupation Wool Spinner Born BALSTON, Leicestershire
    Sarah A. Kirkman Wife Age 40 Occupation Wool Spinner Born London
    Georgiana Kirkman Daughter Age 5 Born Leicester


    He apparently married Sarah Adams but I don't know where and should be betweeen 1881-1891, I don't want to buy a birth cert for Georgiana and don't think he went abroad, so looking for help as I don't know if it's her maiden name or if she was married before and dare I say....were these 2

    and if anyone can find his mother 1851 and 1861, that would be a bonus

    1841 Census HO107/ 592 Folio: 18 Pg 32
    Thurmaston South
    John Kirkman 35 Occupation Farmer
    Mary Kirkman 35
    Sarah Kirkman 14
    Robert Kirkman 12
    John Kirkman 10
    Mary Kirkman 9
    Georgeiana Kirkman 6
    Samuel Kirkman 2
    Trussell Kirkman 1
    All born within the county
    Mary is born in Bagworth

    she marries again

    Entry No.34, AUG 15, 1867, after Banns
    JOHN PRATT, 75, wid. FWK, of BELGRAVE GATE, s. of EDWARD PRATT, FWK
    MARY KIRKMAN, 65, wid. of BELGRAVE GATE, d. of WILLIAM SKERMER, FARMER
    Wits: HENRY MALLET, JOHN JOHNSON

    and I have her after that and burial at Bagworth
    have his siblings also, the girls went to Australia
    Elaine

    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

    #2
    cannot find a marriage between Samuel Kirkman and Sarah A Adams as yet will keep looking


    Val

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      #3
      Thank you
      Elaine

      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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        #4
        still nothing sorry suppose you have his army records ?


        Val

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          #5
          Nothing to help except off to Rotherham
          Last edited by Elaine; 25-02-13, 21:30.
          Elaine

          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

          http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
          http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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            #6
            I can't find a marriage - sorry.

            Had no luck with Sarah Adams born London c1851 in 1881 census either

            Jay
            Janet in Yorkshire



            Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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              #7
              I havent found Mary in 1851 but I have found John :(

              1851: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=8978

              I spose you have this already... :(
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                #8
                Yep, ref above!...but it is late :D
                Elaine

                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                  #9
                  When the name Adams was "given " to you, do you know the thought process behind this?
                  (I'm wondering if we can attack this from another front, so to speak!)

                  Jay
                  Janet in Yorkshire



                  Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                    #10
                    Looking through last night, I have her birth details, it's from a one name study and have a PDF with it on...probably have to go back to the source again!
                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                      #11
                      there is this:

                      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=1513960
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                        #12
                        I thought it was probably her and there are some reports in the paper about a John Kirkman leaving his children nearly destitute while he was off elsewhere, eldest daughter had already left home
                        Elaine

                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                          #13
                          Can't access Julie's link - I only have the basic package.
                          Does it refer to Sarah Adams?

                          Jay
                          Janet in Yorkshire



                          Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                            #14
                            If you mean that last link Jay, it's a Mary Kirkman aged 35 in prison in Leicester in 1844 for Larceny. Two convictions - 5 months and 1 month.
                            Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
                              Can't access Julie's link - I only have the basic package.
                              Does it refer to Sarah Adams?

                              Jay
                              sorry Jay :( but Chrissie has explained it well
                              Julie
                              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                                #16
                                Thanks ladies - going out to lunch now , but will pop in later.

                                Jay
                                Janet in Yorkshire



                                Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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