Disappeared into thin air?

[ozgirl]

Baptism for a Samuel Elijah Daykin in 1878 in Nottingham - Father George, mother Mary. Could Mary have been mistranscribed/misheard

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_re...0-27?locale=en

Also in 1891 a pauper inmate Samuel Daykin aged 14 in Penge.

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

[cbcarolyn]

It certainly has confused me! Is that plater? as his occupation.

I did have a search around to see if I can see him on census especially as father George, but failed in that too!

[cbcarolyn]

Baptism for a Samuel Elijah Daykin in 1878 in Nottingham - Father George, mother Mary. Could Mary have been mistranscribed/misheard

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58187398e93790eca31ffcba/samuel-elijah-daykin-baptism-nottinghamshire-stapleford-1878-10-27?locale=en

Also in 1891 a pauper inmate Samuel Daykin aged 14 in Penge.

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

seen Stapleford mentioned on something recently too

seems an amazing coincidence that the names match, and can't see anymore children in the area for those names on GRO, but many other Daykin. But has to be a coincidence?

[cbcarolyn]

and where is Charles. Was just hoping to find a few more links in Battersea.

[ozgirl]

George Daykin b 1846 in (he says) Stapleford was a soldier in the Grenadier Guards. He was pensioned out in 1878 due to Consumption. The next possible sighting is a George Daykin who died in Wandsworth in 1884, aged 38. If this is the same George Daykin, then he couldn't be the father of Charles b. ca 1887. Again, a lot of the details seem to match up. We seem to be going round in circles!

George Daykin b 1846 in 1861 census. His father's name is Elijah, which would fit perfectly with the first born son of George and Emily being given both his grandfather's names.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...SAAEgKBn_D_BwE

[ozgirl]

Elijah died in 1872, which again ties in with the entry on George's marriage certificate.

[cbcarolyn]

George Daykin b 1846 in (he says) Stapleford was a soldier in the Grenadier Guards. He was pensioned out in 1878 due to Consumption. The next possible sighting is a George Daykin who died in Wandsworth in 1884, aged 38. If this is the same George Daykin, then he couldn't be the father of Charles b. ca 1887. Again, a lot of the details seem to match up. We seem to be going round in circles!

George Daykin b 1846 in 1861 census. His father's name is Elijah, which would fit perfectly with the first born son of George and Emily being given both his grandfather's names.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...SAAEgKBn_D_BwE

We certainly are, going round in circles. I was kind of hoping that Charles would end up being morphed from Samuel Elijah.
I found a baptism which says Samuel a soldier https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...53/edit/record

and then to tie them all up living all in one road in Battersea ha ha.

He seems to be another child of theirs then, it fits. Maybe she did call him Charles, as he would be same age, and I would have expected him to be with her and the children.

NB Charles born c1879

[ozgirl]

NB Charles born c1879

But if Charles is 4 in 1891 in the Workhouse, then he couldn't have been born in 1879?

[TMac]

I'd been working on Samuel Elijah Daykin funnily enough. Benjamin Sharratt, son of Samuel Sharratt and Mary Weaver had a son, Joseph in 1902 in Poplar. Joseph married Rose E Daykin who's father was Samuel Elijah Daykin who's parents were George Daykin and Mary Sharratt. I've had to stop there as it was beginning to feel that I was going round in circles. These family's seem to be intertwined and the coincidence of addresses and names is a bit overwhelming. I am having a break for a couple of days and will hopefully get back on to it soon.

[cbcarolyn]

But if Charles is 4 in 1891 in the Workhouse, then he couldn't have been born in 1879?

sorry yes was 10 years out on the record

They must all be wrong.....I have children as
DAYKIN, GEORGE BENJAMIN SHARRATT GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 165
DAYKIN, EMILY JANE SHARRATT GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in WINDSOR Volume 02C Page 454
DAYKIN, SAMUEL ELIJAH SHARRATT GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in SHARDLOW Volume 07B Page 464
DAYKIN, WILLIAM SHARRATT GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 686
DAYKIN, FRANCES JANE SHARRATT GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 614
and record is showing them as Benjamin 6, Charles 4 and Emily 2 in 1891...

I have seen a family that match this on a census I am sure.

[cbcarolyn]

found it:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/6598/LNDRG12_368_370-0290?pid=7155450&treeid=164130072&personid=122136766538&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SZd26747&_phstart=successSource

Name: Emily Dakin
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1855
Child: Benjamin Dakin
Charles Dakin
Emily A Dakin
Birth Place: Inaidstone, Asylmor
Civil Parish: Horsleydown
Residence Place: Southwark London, Horsleydown, London, England
Sub registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 369
Folio: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Dakin 36
Benjamin Dakin 5
Charles Dakin 3
Emily A Dakin 1


So the workhouse record not them at all! so that means no Charles - even better

and that fits with George Daykins death in 1884 in Wandsworth

[cbcarolyn]

I'd been working on Samuel Elijah Daykin funnily enough. Benjamin Sharratt, son of Samuel Sharratt and Mary Weaver had a son, Joseph in 1902 in Poplar. Joseph married Rose E Daykin who's father was Samuel Elijah Daykin who's parents were George Daykin and Mary Sharratt. I've had to stop there as it was beginning to feel that I was going round in circles. These family's seem to be intertwined and the coincidence of addresses and names is a bit overwhelming. I am having a break for a couple of days and will hopefully get back on to it soon.

interesting.

[TMac]

found it:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/6598/LNDRG12_368_370-0290?pid=7155450&treeid=164130072&personid=122136766538&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SZd26747&_phstart=successSource

Name: Emily Dakin
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1855
Child: Benjamin Dakin
Charles Dakin
Emily A Dakin
Birth Place: Inaidstone, Asylmor
Civil Parish: Horsleydown
Residence Place: Southwark London, Horsleydown, London, England
Sub registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 369
Folio: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Dakin 36
Benjamin Dakin 5
Charles Dakin 3
Emily A Dakin 1


So the workhouse record not them at all! so that means no Charles - even better

and that fits with George Daykins death in 1884 in Wandsworth

Not sure - the childrens ages are 10 years out.

[ozgirl]

On George's discharge papers (on FMP) he is discharged in Jul 1878 and says he plans on living in Stapleford/Sandiacre. That would tie in with Samuel being born there in the September. Presumably within a couple of years they decided to return to London, where their remaining 2 children were born.

[ozgirl]

Not sure - the childrens ages are 10 years out.

I think cbcarolyn is discounting this whole family.


It looks like it was an Emily Crowhurst who married a Robert Dakin in 1881.

[cbcarolyn]

On George's discharge papers (on FMP) he is discharged in Jul 1878 and says he plans on living in Stapleford/Sandiacre. That would tie in with Samuel being born there in the September. Presumably within a couple of years they decided to return to London, where their remaining 2 children were born.

That all ties in then, so tree is more accurate now but no other tie in to Mary Eliza Ann

I think cbcarolyn is discounting this whole family.


It looks like it was an Emily Crowhurst who married a Robert Dakin in 1881.

yes I was discounting them - they match the workhouse records so have discounted that too, as a completely different family.

[ozgirl]

I'd been working on Samuel Elijah Daykin funnily enough. Benjamin Sharratt, son of Samuel Sharratt and Mary Weaver had a son, Joseph in 1902 in Poplar. Joseph married Rose E Daykin who's father was Samuel Elijah Daykin who's parents were George Daykin and Mary Sharratt. I've had to stop there as it was beginning to feel that I was going round in circles. These family's seem to be intertwined and the coincidence of addresses and names is a bit overwhelming. I am having a break for a couple of days and will hopefully get back on to it soon.

I definitely think that "Mary" is a mistake and it is Emily, as I cannot find any other instance of a Daykin/Sharratt marriage at that time (although that doesn't mean anything). If so that would mean that Joseph married his cousin's daughter. DNA matching could certainly help.

[teasie]

William Dakin's 1904 Settlement examination... lots of "don't know's" on it! Lists his uncle as Benjamin Sharratt of 3 Claude Street Millwall and says his mother died 6 Oct 1894 (but isnt sure!) at Claboro(?) Asylum

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1557/31363_A108017-00075?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=32967_a108192-00203

ADDED: Quickly looking at it again, I think the questions were answered by Benjamin.

[teasie]

I'm wondering if that Clayboro Asylum should be Claybury, and the 1895 death in Romford, Essex of Emily Daykin aged 40 is her?

My Southern geography isn't up to much Im afraid!

[ozgirl]

I just found that too teasie, and thought the same thing.