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  • Rosina Alice Gurry

    I have started a tree for a friend and seem to be getting stuck every line! This one is the trickiest atm, someone has managed to morph her into Gray on ancestry which I am not liking at all, and pretty sure this is wrong. I have her birth cert pdf and there is no father.

    https___www.gro.gov.uk_gro_content_certificates_ov_00000075228480023109_4954722_3XIXWBB19IBKFXD.jpg


    trying to trace 1871 in the hope Mum and child together so that I can find mother pob but having no luck.

    the 1891 I have a possible here, is just a guess, and may be completely wrong.



    there is a removal order stating Elizabeth Williams properly Gurry, and living in Edmonton could be her, in 1919
    Last edited by cbcarolyn; 13-11-23, 13:19.
    Carolyn
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  • #2
    I've had a quick look and not doing very well. Don't have Ancestry so can't see what you have copied for us.

    Have found in 1881 Rosina Garry as a Scullery maid aged 19.

    Also 1861 Elizabeth Gurry born 1842 Sutton Bedfordshire in Islington as a sister, There are quite a few Gurry's on the page.

    If these are what you have posted sorry.
    Lin

    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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    • #3
      Yes I have the 1881 for Rosina - hoping it is her

      I have so many conflicting ones, I have this only atm for Elizabeth, will look at 1861

      I have 1891 - but may not be her. I think I need to get her birth cert - will see if there is a PDF

      Name Elizabeth Gurry
      Gender Female
      Age 52
      Relationship Servant
      Birth Year 1839
      Birth Place Stanstead, Essex, England
      Civil parish Camberwell
      Ecclesiastical parish St Stephen
      Residence Place Dulwich, Camberwell, London, England
      Registration district Camberwell
      Sub registration district Dulwich
      ED, Institution or Vessel 1
      Neighbors View others on page
      Piece 461
      Folio 17​
      Last edited by cbcarolyn; 13-11-23, 15:21.
      Carolyn
      Family Tree site

      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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      • #4
        Have you thought of checking the street on the birth certificate?

        12 Bluebell or Blundell Street, Islington is what I think it says.
        My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

        Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sylvia C View Post
          Have you thought of checking the street on the birth certificate?

          12 Bluebell or Blundell Street, Islington is what I think it says.
          good idea, just had a look at 12 Blundell street can't see them, shame she was just born after a census.
          Carolyn
          Family Tree site

          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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          • #6
            I wonder if that address was a place where women could go to have their babies, as against going to the Workhouse Infirmary?

            I have a family in OH's line that moved either just before or just after a census, several times. Drove me crazy trying to sort it out ......... particularly since they often exchanged places in 2 counties with cousins who had the same forenames. grrrrrrrrrr

            There is a strong suggestion that one set were actually Quaker (while also going to CofE for baptisms/marriages/and burial service), and moved due to harassment.
            Last edited by Sylvia C; 13-11-23, 22:36.
            My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

            Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
              there is a removal order stating Elizabeth Williams properly Gurry, and living in Edmonton could be her, in 1919
              The removal order says she lived at 14 Fairfield Road, Edmonton for 3+ years up until around 1903.

              In 1901 at 3 Fairfield Road, Edmonton - RG13/1261/85/42

              James Williams 63 Commercial Traveller in Jewellery b Lambeth
              Elizabeth Williams 57 wife b NK Beds
              Arthur 27 son Railway Clerk b Hampstead
              Elizabeth 25 daur Violinist b Hackney
              Florence 17 daur Cashier in Restaurant b Tottenham
              Marguerette 15 daur b Tottenham
              Rose Gurry 39 Single Visitor b Islington


              The family is at the same address in 1891, with Rose Gurry now a 29 year old servant, born Tottenham, and Elizabeth aged 47 (1844) born Sutton, Beds - RG12/1081/132/3


              In 1881 they are at 4 Cawday Street, Hackney RG11/ 317/120/30
              James Williams 46 Jeweller b London
              Elizabeth 47 Wife b Bedford,
              Eliza 18 daur b London
              Edward son 16 b London
              Emily daur 14 b London
              Walter son 12 b London
              Mather daur 9 b London
              Edwin 6 son b London


              I'm struggling with the older children, but these are the youngest two from 1881.

              WILLIAMS, MARY ELIZABETH mmn GURRY GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 545​
              WILLIAMS, EDWIN JOHN mmn GURRY GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 588


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              • #8
                Well done Teasie. In bed last night I thought we should look for her as Elizabeth Williams. With Bedford as her birth place it could be the one I found on the census.

                Good luck with them Carolyn. Hope it is the correct family.

                Lin

                Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                • #9
                  Wow thank you teasie , she is looking like my Elizabeth, and likely be the one Lin Fisher found from Sutton in Beds in 1861

                  Will get back onto this later, and then will have another go at the Flints.

                  The trees that have her as Grey do seem to be completely wrong.

                  Carolyn
                  Family Tree site

                  Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                  Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

                    there is a removal order stating Elizabeth Williams properly Gurry, and living in Edmonton could be her, in 1919
                    This would suggest to me that she never married.

                    From 1891 census:
                    WILLIAMS, LEONARD CHARLES mmn GURRY
                    GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 589

                    WILLIAMS, GRACE mmn GURRY
                    GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 622
                    DEATH: WILLIAMS, GRACE 0
                    GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 322

                    WILLIAMS, FLORENCE OLIVE mmn GURRY
                    GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 323
                    WILLIAMS, MARGUERITE LILIAN mmn GURRY
                    GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 364​​​​
                    Kat

                    My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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                    • #11
                      I wondered about the term properly. That is a nuisance could have done with the record.

                      Katarzyna thank you will add these.
                      Carolyn
                      Family Tree site

                      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                      • #12
                        Possibles
                        GURRY, ELLEN KATE -
                        GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 264

                        ??? GURRY, ARTHUR JAMES -
                        GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 295

                        GURRY, LOUISA JANE -
                        GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 443​

                        Death GURRY, LOUISA JANE 0
                        GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 221​​​​
                        Kat

                        My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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                        • #13
                          Ooh you are on a roll, I have not had time to look have a busy day today.

                          found the 1861 census that Lin found - mistranscribed on Ancestry

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                          I assume Ann her sister, will look later.
                          Carolyn
                          Family Tree site

                          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by teasie View Post
                            I'm struggling with the older children, but these are the youngest two from 1881.
                            WILLIAMS, MARY ELIZABETH mmn GURRY GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 545​
                            WILLIAMS, EDWIN JOHN mmn GURRY GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 588
                            Maybe James had been married before ie the older children will have a different mmn.
                            Kat

                            My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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