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  • #21
    Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
    1851 census
    Keelings Lane, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

    Sarah Bramald Head Widow Female 66 1785 - Newhill, Yorkshire, England
    William Bramald Son Unmarried Male 33 1818 Potter Hanley, Staffordshire, England
    William H Bramald Grand son Orphan Male 12 1839 Potter Hanley, Staffordshire, England
    Ann Taylor Grand daughter - Female 7 1844 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England

    Newhill is between Wath upon Dearne and Swinton​
    I literally live round the corner from Newhill!!
    That definitely looks like it could be them. My gut feel was always that they started in Yorkshire and moved to Staffordshire, before coming back. There's just too many Bramelds in the area before Henry came along, for that not to be the case.

    I'll digest all your information and see if I can match any of the individuals to the sheet I've pulled together


    • #22
      Dau Elizabeth Bramald marries William Dale. sept qtr 1849 Stoke on Trent Vol 17 p 204

      1861 census West Derby.
      https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...t=successSourc e&ml_rpos=1&queryId=4a59d8697e0bea65574e7ac00f88 60 97

      William Dale 34 Head
      Elizabeth Dale 36 Wife
      Arthur Dale 10 Son
      William Dale 8 Son
      Sarah Brannalab 76 Mother Brampton Bierlow, Yorkshire ( Brammald on Family Search.) China painter.
      Thomas Taylor 19 Nephew​

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      • #23
        Is Elizabeth not on either of the two census records further up? I presume not. The 1851 census she isn't present and the Elizabeth living with John on the 1841 presumably died if their son was an Orphan.

        If I could just prove that Sarah was Henry's mother, I can probably say with some certainty that the shoemakers and pottery owners are part of the same family.


        • #24
          1841 census on Ancestry
          Name John Bramall
          [John Bramald]
          Age 50
          Estimated Birth Year abt 1791
          Gender Male
          Civil parish Stoke Upon Trent
          Hundred North Pirehill
          County/Island Staffordshire
          Registration district Stoke upon Trent
          Sub-registration district Hanley
          Piece 990
          Book 7
          Folio 8
          Page number 8​

          John Bramall 50 born out of county
          Sarah Bramall 50 ditto
          Sarah Bramall 20 Staffordshire
          William Bramall 20 ditto
          Eliza Bramall 16 ditto (Elizabeth).
          Ellen Bramall 15 ditto
          Emma Bramall 12 ditto​

          Need to find the marriage of John and Sarah in Yorkshire.

          Elizabeth's marriage to William Dale shows father is JOHN.
          Name Elizabeth Bramald
          Marriage Age Full Age
          Record Type Marriage
          Residence Place Hanley
          Marriage Date 10 Sep 1849
          Marriage Place Stoke on Trent, St Peter ad Vincula, Staffordshire, England
          Father John Bramald
          Spouse William Dale
          Religion Anglican
          Page number 164​
          Last edited by Katarzyna; 22-10-23, 11:30.

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          • #25
            Sarah can't be Henry's mother then I don't think. On his marriage certificate, it said his father was called Thomas.

            It all seems to fit though, really frustrating


            • #26
              I have no idea where the connection to your family might be but there is a definite link between Staffordshire and Yorkshire. Finding John should help in that perhaps John's father could lead to more brothers to bring forward but that means searching back into parish registers both Yorkshire and Staffs.

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