francis halliwell & anne markland

[kylejustin]

francis halliwell married anne markland in 1812 at st peter's leeds. they are here in north leeds, 1841:https://www.ancestry.com.au/imagevie...2?pId=14952775

the kids are their daughter eliza's, married to matthew warren in 1835.

can anyone see what happend to francis and anne? i'm struggling to find anything more on them.

[PhotoFamily]

Keeping in mind I don't know the geography...

HELLIWELL, FRANCIS	69
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in WORTLEY UNION Volume 22 Page 525

And maybe this one for her?

Ann Helliwell

69

27 Jun 1842

Ecclesfield, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom

Sheffield, St Mary, Ecclesfield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England

1842

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6618-ZSWG

HELLIWELL, ANN	57
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 270

Wait,those must be two different ANNs - ages are quite different

[Katarzyna]

Cannot use .com au here.
1841 Shear Street
Spelt differently and with a Sarah age 25 and no Eliza. The only one I can see for 1841 is this one:

Name: Francis Helewell Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Town Hundred: Leeds Borough County/Island: Yorkshire Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: Leeds North Piece: 1347 Book: 6 Folio: 7 Page number: 6 Francis Helewell 65 Ann Helewel 60 Sarah Helewell 25 There are two children with Sarah a James Marron 3 Ann " 4 mths.

Is the above family the correct one?

[Katarzyna]

Is this Eliza's husband? If so I assume you have Eliza's details and just need the parents' further censuses/deaths?

Record details
Name Matthew Warren
Age 27
Birth Year 1813
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Arrival Year 1840
Arrival State New South Wales
Status M 1m
Ship Woodbridge
Occupation Cloth dresser

Name Matthew Warren
Age 26
Estimated Birth Year 1813
Date of Trial 9 Mar 1839
Trial Year 1839
Location of Trial Yorkshire - West Riding, England
Sentence Transportation

[Katarzyna]

DUH! Just realised that the Sarah in the 1841 census is really Eliza and her two children (transcribed as Marron) are Warren.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=232468043887

"the kids are their daughter eliza's, married to matthew warren in 1835." ... Francis doesn't have a daughter Sarah.

[Katarzyna]

btw did you know Ann was a widow when she married Francis?

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The Sheffield death is way south of Leeds and the age would be wrong although I cannot find another suitable one.

HELLIWELL, ANN 57
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 270

Looks ok ish, but birth would be a bit out ie. born c1785 - do you have her baptism?

[teasie]

Ann's burial at St. Marys, Mabgate, Leeds:

9 Jun 1844 Ann Halliwell of Shear Street, aged 65, wife of Francis Halliwell.

GRO have the surname wrong:
HELLEWELL, ANN aged 65 GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 284

[teasie]

Earlier the same year at the same church - not sure if she's connected though:

4 Feb 1844 Sarah Helliwell aged 41 of Shear Street, Single Woman

[kylejustin]

Thank you everyone, that is the correct 1841 census.

The only death i could see for francis was in wortley, but it's quite far from leeds.

I was thinking the 1844 leeds death was anne's, but couldn't spot any burials. good to have confirmation.

I'm working on this family wondering if they might be the parents of my ancestor, but i have no proof. Was hoping to find thejr death certs, and see who the informants were.

[kylejustin]

Is this Eliza's husband? If so I assume you have Eliza's details and just need the parents' further censuses/deaths?

Record details
Name Matthew Warren
Age 27
Birth Year 1813
Birth Place Gloucestershire
Arrival Year 1840
Arrival State New South Wales
Status M 1m
Ship Woodbridge
Occupation Cloth dresser

Name Matthew Warren
Age 26
Estimated Birth Year 1813
Date of Trial 9 Mar 1839
Trial Year 1839
Location of Trial Yorkshire - West Riding, England
Sentence Transportation

That must be him, marriage recorded him as a cloth dresser.