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  • #21
    There is this burial, which seems more likely to match the one I posted? But I don't know if the actual record would have more detail.
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CFYT-4K6Z
    Ann Walker
    Female
    71
    Goodson Road
    25 Oct 1872
    Fulham, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
    Fulham, Middlesex, England
    21 Oct 1872
    Fulham
    1801
    Burial
    No. 2463

    My knowledge of the geography is poor:

    Fulham (/ˈfʊləm/) is an area of the London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham in West London, England, 3.6 miles (5.8 km) southwest of Charing Cross. It lies on the north bank of the River Thames, bordering Hammersmith,Kensington​...
    Last edited by PhotoFamily; 05-03-23, 16:54.

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    • #22
      Broadening the search to include Kent, this would be another possibility, but don't know about the "Hogard", and not finding another record for that specific name (Ann Hogard Walker).
      WALKER Ann Hogard 73 Woolwich 1d 603
      Last edited by PhotoFamily; 05-03-23, 17:08.

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      • #23
        1861 census
        Anne Hogard Walker 50 Wife
        1811
        Kensington, Middlesex, England
        Plumstead
        Kent
        England
        Lewisham


        ​Thomas Walker 48 Head​
        Edward Brownell Walker 23 Son
        Anne Esther Walker 18 Daughter
        Civil parish: Plumstead
        County/Island: Kent
        Country: England
        Registration district: Lewisham​​​
        Kat

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
          1861 census
          Anne Hogard Walker 50 Wife
          1811
          Kensington, Middlesex, England
          Plumstead
          Kent
          England
          Lewisham
          And I will now go hit my head on the wall 10 times...I had posted that on her profile on WikiTree...except it was from FamilySearch and they had Hagard...

          So that settles her DOD.

          Now looking for her birth.

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          • #25
            and there is this baptism
            Ann Eliza Hogard
            Female
            5 Jun 1805
            Holborn, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
            Robert Hogard
            Male
            Ann Hogard
            Female
            Baptism

            Requiring the re-eval of the marriage record? In it, she is a spinster, and he is from the parish that their son is born in.
            Last edited by PhotoFamily; 06-03-23, 00:50.

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            • #26
              This is an interesting marriage record. I believe the witness to the Walker-White marriage is Jos(eph) Brownell, and the son's middle name is Brownell
              Joseph Brownell
              Male
              Jane White
              Female
              31 May 1804
              St Andrew by the Wardrobe with St Ann Blackfriars, London, England, United Kingdom
              Saint Andrew by The Wardrobe, London, London, England
              Marriage

              Could Jane be an Aunt of Ann?

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              • #27
                WALKER, THOMAS age 47
                GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 707 Plumstead is Woolwich reg Dist.
                Definitely not him:
                Solomon on the probate:

                Screenshot 2023-03-06 115539.jpg
                Kat

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                • #28
                  Possible birth:

                  Jane White
                  Mother Sarah
                  Father Joseph
                  Last name White
                  Birth date 07 Aug 1783
                  Holborn, British Lying-In Hospital, Endell Street
                  Baptism date 07 Aug 1783​
                  Archive reference TNA/RG/8/63​
                  England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms

                  Endell Street is just under a mile from St Andrew by the Wardrobe.
                  Last edited by Katarzyna; 06-03-23, 14:33.
                  Kat

                  My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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                  • #29
                    I can't work on this until later this evening, but overnight I was wondering if Ann could have been orphaned, or lost her father and her mother remarried. Whichever, I was wondering if it was possible that she came to live in the White family and eventually took their surname as her own, as more or less a hyphenated surname.
                    Last edited by PhotoFamily; 06-03-23, 14:18.

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                    • #30
                      Unfortunately, looking at the Jane White marriage image https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource she was a widow of the parish of St Ann Blackfriars. Joseph Brownell was a bachelor of St Olave, Southwark. Married by licence.
                      One of the witnesses is interesting though : Robert Hogard and Elizth Rogers.
                      Last edited by Katarzyna; 06-03-23, 14:57.
                      Kat

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                      • #31
                        Maybe Tennent is Jane's mn. Baby came quickly after the marriage dated 31 May 1804.

                        Name: Joseph Tennant
                        Gender: Male
                        Record Type: Baptism
                        Baptism Date: 30 Dec 1804 (birth date June 20 1804?)
                        Baptism Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, Surrey, England
                        Father: Joseph Brownell
                        Mother: Jane Brownell

                        1804 birth Joseph Tennent Brownell.jpg

                        Kat

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                        • #32
                          When I'm confused about how to tie things together, I always think, if they wanted to be found, they should have left the Cliff Notes. Don't know if you have Cliff Notes in the UK - everything a student needs to know about a book or subject without actually studying the material. There are variations on that theme - the right to be forgotten, etc.

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                          • #33
                            There are a number of Hogard children born to Robert and Ann in various London/Middlesex locations
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                            (not all listed are from them)

                            Which makes me think that Ann Eliza Hogard (bapt. 1805) is not Ann White.

                            The good news about Dissenters - they could have amazing detail in their records. The bad news - their records didn't always make it to the present.

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                            • #34

                              I found these Banns (but no marriage) and death ..... it fits the dates but.......I'm not at all convinced.... In fact, running out of ideas now

                              Name Jane Binfield
                              Marriage Banns Date 19 Feb 1797
                              Marriage Banns Place St Anne, Soho, London, England
                              Spouse James White
                              Westminster, London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935

                              Name James White
                              Gender Male
                              Death Date 1802
                              Burial Date 5 Dec 1802
                              Burial Place Westminister, Middlesex, England​​
                              England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
                              Last edited by Katarzyna; 07-03-23, 09:16.
                              Kat

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                              • #35
                                Katarzyna Thanks for all your help - we've fleshed out a lot of detail!

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