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    Has anyone heard of twins with DOBs a year apart?

    I have a family on the 1911 with two daughters, one under one month and the other 1 year, but whoever filled the form in has put a bracket round them and written twins.

    I have checked on the GRO index (both on the GRO website and FreeBMD to eliminate transcription errors) and they were indeed registered a year apart!

    I can't check on the 1921 as one died in 1912 and the other in 1918.

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  • #2
    Maybe there were two sets of twins?
    Julie
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    • #3
      Oops just realised it is a census form rather than a baptism so deleted my comment. Very odd though.
      Anne
      Last edited by Anne in Carlisle; 06-09-22, 15:40.

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      • #4
        how odd - can't decide if added afterwards by someone else that was confused!

        First name(s) Caroline Cecilia
        Last name Friend
        Birth quarter 1
        Birth year 1910
        Mother's maiden name Terry
        District Steyning
        County Sussex
        Country England
        Volume 2B
        Page 230
        Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
        Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
        Subcategory Civil Births
        Collections from Great Britain, England​


        First name(s) Kathleen M
        Last name Friend
        Birth quarter 2
        Birth year 1911
        Mother's maiden name -
        District Steyning
        County Sussex
        Country England
        Volume 2B
        Page 237
        Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
        Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
        Subcategory Civil Births
        Collections from Great Britain, England​
        Carolyn
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        • #5
          I was just looking too, I wondered of there were other births to go with the two already listed.
          Julie
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post
            I was just looking too, I wondered of there were other births to go with the two already listed.
            unless stillborn, and never registered?
            Carolyn
            Family Tree site

            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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            • #7
              These are all the births I can see for FRIEND mms TERRY 1906-1913. Odd that one of the 1906 ones is in Dover not Steyning.
              Tried to find Elsie May by just using her name and no mms. Got half a dozen results but none with mms remotely like TERRY. Found her - see below.
              There was another FRIEND/TERRY marriage which took place in Dover so that counts for Walter Charles in 1906 and various other FRIEND children born in Dover.

              Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
              FRIEND, GEORGE GERALD TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 249
              FRIEND, WALTER CHARLES TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in DOVER Volume 02A Page 108
              FRIEND, CAROLINE CECILIA TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 230
              FRIEND, KATHLEEN MARY TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 237
              FRIEND, JOSEPH ERNEST WILLIAM TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 438
              FRIEND, STANLEY ARTHUR TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1913 J Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 451


              UPDATE: found parents marriage 1901. I hadn’t gone back far enough to find the other children on the 1911. Elsie May born before marriage but James FRIEND seems to be birth father.
              TERRY, ELSIE MAY FRIEND -
              GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 294
              FRIEND, JOHN JAMES TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 248
              FRIEND, VIOLET IRENE TERRY
              GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 295
              Last edited by GallowayLass; 06-09-22, 19:38. Reason: Found all the children on the 1911 but no twins.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

                unless stillborn, and never registered?
                mm I thought something in similar lines... well, they probably were registered just not in the main register, I forget offhand just when the stillbirth register came into being.

                ah ETA: the register was started in 1927, but I have seen burials for still born children...
                Last edited by Darksecretz; 06-09-22, 17:33.
                Julie
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                • #9
                  I don’t know if you have the marriage details?

                  Banns first called 5th May 1901, then 12th and 19th in St. Leonard, Aldrington - James Friend (bachelor) and Hannah Terry (spinster) both of this parish.

                  Marriage in St. Leonard, Aldrington, Sussex 26th May 1901
                  James Friend (bachelor), age 23, Bricklayer residing 132 Westbourne Street, father John Friend (dec), Labourer
                  Hannah Terry (spinster), age 27, residing 132 Westbourne Street, father James Terry, Farm labourer
                  Both parties signed, witnesses William Slaughter and Annie Terry both of whom signed.

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                  • #10
                    Perhaps whoever went to register the births didn't realise that each child had to be registered individually??? and the second child was a late registration when the error was eventually realised??
                    I think that one would possibly be a birth cert for my wish list to see if the registrar had added a comment and if so, what it was?

                    Have you found them both on the 1939 register to check their dob?
                    Janet in Yorkshire



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
                      Perhaps whoever went to register the births didn't realise that each child had to be registered individually??? and the second child was a late registration when the error was eventually realised??
                      I think that one would possibly be a birth cert for my wish list to see if the registrar had added a comment and if so, what it was?

                      Have you found them both on the 1939 register to check their dob?
                      From the original post 'one died in 1912 and the other in 1918.'
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