Stumped!

[Darksecretz]

No james marrying catherine in 1845 in herts- searching without surnames on FMP. Thoughts would be it was a register office like stated above, or maybe FMP hasn't got the registers for the place. Perhaps they do have the records but they stop before 1845? Have you checked the parish lists on FMP to see if the years are covered for the places you think the marriage took place?

No I haven't looked extensively, but I have found the Clibbens/Banes marriage.. and the family are transcribed as Clibbens in the 1841/1851 then it changes to Clements.. so what gives?

can anyone else make out what Johns occupation is please... I think I know what it might be but want to make sure that I'm right..lol...

[Darksecretz]

oops it might help if I upload the bloody image!!!..

John Clements occupation 1841.JPG

[Barbara Dodds]

Possibly Carrier?

[kylejustin]

Says "carrier" i think.

[annette.humphreys]

Can't explain why James became Clibbons for a while, but would think that Banes simply a mistranscription when indexed by GRO and should read Barnes.

Annette

[annette.humphreys]

John and Fanny's children in 1841 have all been baptised as Clements except for Fanny junior who is Clibbons.

Annette

[kylejustin]

I would say the accent may have played a part. I have "clementson" in my tree, and frequently find it as "clemins/clemmens" and "clemitson".

"climmns" and clibbns" phonetically are similar. Perhaps the transcriber wasn't local? Perhaps your ancestor lost his teeth?

[Darksecretz]

Can't explain why James became Clibbons for a while, but would think that Banes simply a mistranscription when indexed by GRO and should read Barnes.

Annette

Thank you Annette some of the births have Baines and Banes too...

John and Fanny's children in 1841 have all been baptised as Clements except for Fanny junior who is Clibbons.

Annette

It's just bonkers isn't it?

I would say the accent may have played a part. I have "clementson" in my tree, and frequently find it as "clemins/clemmens" and "clemitson".

"climmns" and clibbns" phonetically are similar. Perhaps the transcriber wasn't local? Perhaps your ancestor lost his teeth?

I'm not really sure what a Herts accent sounds like tbh, if it were Dorset then I could praps understand that as it sounds slightly Devonish, but no clue with Herts.. I know sometimes if you have adenoid problems it can make you sound like you have a blocked nose all the time... I thought your comment Kyle of lost teeth was priceless!.. it would certainly explain it.