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I am french and trying to know more on my English roots. My grandfather was English. And I am looking to find more information on my gran grandfather(Sidney) and his father. I know Sidney date and place of birth. I have found birth certificate. But there is a mystery I am not able to sort out.
Sidney Murray born may 9th 1895 , 29 Kentish town road. Registration District PANCRAS , Sub District Camden Town.
The certificate state that her mother is Harriet Murrey formerly Hyde and his Father is Henry Murrey. What is strange to me is that Murrey is written with an “e” while on my gran grandfather papers and then all family member this is written with a “a” Murray.
According to the family history Sidney had sisters and when was young was placed in a family Voller as his father was traveler and Diamond merchant. I have found some traces in census of that placement.
I have found also birth certificates of ladies where date and mother are corresponding. Always Harriet Murray formerly Hyde. One with same residence.
1 : Augusta Gertrude Murray (With a “a”) 4 June 1890, 29 Kentish town road. Registration District PANCRAS , Sub District Camden Town.
2: Eva : Where this is interesting as in this I found relevant information that is corresponding to the history we have always heard from the family . Meaning Father profession and name of the father Sigmun. Sigmun is well stated as Sidney Father’s name in some records Sidney ‘s wife wrote decades ago.
What I don’t reconcile and looking for help is the Sidney Father history. It’s seems he was jewish and that is why they change name. So Murray is perhaps not the real family name that could explain the mistake between “e” and “a” and why in a certificate there is no name , one henry or last with Sigmun . Sigmun being the name known in family history. So I am really interested to know more about that strange family history and trying to sort it out. I have not been able to find marriage certificate with an Harriet Hyde and a Sigmun or Henry Murray or Murrey. Maybe I am not looking at the right places (I looked at the GRO). I also don’t know if we can find some child placement information. Sidney being place in the Voller Familly. I even have some military letter stating this. I know finally that Sigmun is supposed to dead in Singapour but I have unfortunately no date. And finally, it’s seems that Harriet had a last child Herbert but died while delivering.
I know this is a strange story. I have already received some help and made lot of progress on the Sidney's mother branch but this is why I am interested in and willing to know more on my English root that I am proud of and Sidney Father side
By advance thanks for any help.
I am french and trying to know more on my English roots. My grandfather was English. And I am looking to find more information on my gran grandfather(Sidney) and his father. I know Sidney date and place of birth. I have found birth certificate. But there is a mystery I am not able to sort out.
Sidney Murray born may 9th 1895 , 29 Kentish town road. Registration District PANCRAS , Sub District Camden Town.
The certificate state that her mother is Harriet Murrey formerly Hyde and his Father is Henry Murrey. What is strange to me is that Murrey is written with an “e” while on my gran grandfather papers and then all family member this is written with a “a” Murray.
According to the family history Sidney had sisters and when was young was placed in a family Voller as his father was traveler and Diamond merchant. I have found some traces in census of that placement.
I have found also birth certificates of ladies where date and mother are corresponding. Always Harriet Murray formerly Hyde. One with same residence.
1 : Augusta Gertrude Murray (With a “a”) 4 June 1890, 29 Kentish town road. Registration District PANCRAS , Sub District Camden Town.
2: Eva : Where this is interesting as in this I found relevant information that is corresponding to the history we have always heard from the family . Meaning Father profession and name of the father Sigmun. Sigmun is well stated as Sidney Father’s name in some records Sidney ‘s wife wrote decades ago.
What I don’t reconcile and looking for help is the Sidney Father history. It’s seems he was jewish and that is why they change name. So Murray is perhaps not the real family name that could explain the mistake between “e” and “a” and why in a certificate there is no name , one henry or last with Sigmun . Sigmun being the name known in family history. So I am really interested to know more about that strange family history and trying to sort it out. I have not been able to find marriage certificate with an Harriet Hyde and a Sigmun or Henry Murray or Murrey. Maybe I am not looking at the right places (I looked at the GRO). I also don’t know if we can find some child placement information. Sidney being place in the Voller Familly. I even have some military letter stating this. I know finally that Sigmun is supposed to dead in Singapour but I have unfortunately no date. And finally, it’s seems that Harriet had a last child Herbert but died while delivering.
I know this is a strange story. I have already received some help and made lot of progress on the Sidney's mother branch but this is why I am interested in and willing to know more on my English root that I am proud of and Sidney Father side
By advance thanks for any help.
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