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Ethel Pearce - 1891/1901 census
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***1881 William born Tadley married , HOH, ag lab but no family with him next door to school house. Further down page a brother(?) Thomas b Tadley married with children.
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Kat, thanks for this (sorry for not replying sooner - Christmas happened lol) but William and his wife Eliza didn't marry until the following year :(
Tessie
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Originally posted by tessie31082 View PostHi all!
So I am finding it tricky to find William Pearce (Ethel's father) prior to his marriage to Eliza in 1882. On the 1891 census it says he is born in East Meon, Hampshire.
Searching the 1871 census for a William Pearce brings up:
William Hy Pearce b.1857 Portsea, Hampshire - followed on - not him
William Pearce b. 1857 Clanfield, Hampshire - followed on - not him
William Pearce b. 1856 Milford, Hampshire - living with Grandparent's - need to look at these and see what children they have
William Pearce b. 1856 Tadley, Hampshire - lodger (farm servant) - Ancestry doesn't give any further hints when looking at this record - 1881 census living Padworth, Bradfield, Berkshire,- born Tadley, ag lab married. ***
William H Pearce b. 1858 Cosham, Hampshire - followed on - not him
William Pearce b. 1856 Mitchelmersh, Hampshire - need to look at this - father William but for some reason I think his father is John but not sure why I think this! - was a woodman -married Alma Selina Wren - followed - not him
William Pearce b. 1856 Landport, Hampshire - lodger (can't make out what his job is) - Ancestry doesn't give futher hints and Landport isn't too far from East Meon! - telegraph clerk - civil service - learner
There are lots of other William Pearce's but not born in Hampshire.
Is there anything I'm missing or should I just get stuck into looking at the ones I can't rule out straight away?
Thanks
Tessie
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Hi all!
So I am finding it tricky to find William Pearce (Ethel's father) prior to his marriage to Eliza in 1882. On the 1891 census it says he is born in East Meon, Hampshire.
Searching the 1871 census for a William Pearce brings up:
William Hy Pearce b.1857 Portsea, Hampshire - followed on - not him
William Pearce b. 1857 Clanfield, Hampshire - followed on - not him
William Pearce b. 1856 Milford, Hampshire - living with Grandparent's - need to look at these and see what children they have
William Pearce b. 1856 Tadley, Hampshire - lodger (farm servant) - Ancestry doesn't give any further hints when looking at this record
William H Pearce b. 1858 Cosham, Hampshire - followed on - not him
William Pearce b. 1856 Mitchelmersh, Hampshire - need to look at this - father William but for some reason I think his father is John but not sure why I think this!
William Pearce b. 1856 Landport, Hampshire - lodger (can't make out what his job is) - Ancestry doesn't give futher hints and Landport isn't too far from East Meon!
There are lots of other William Pearce's but not born in Hampshire.
Is there anything I'm missing or should I just get stuck into looking at the ones I can't rule out straight away?
Thanks
Tessie
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Originally posted by annette.humphreys View PostI noted that Ethel appeared on electoral rolls with last entry 1947. Eventually found her death entry on Ancestry, listed as Ethel M. Bowne, Dec.qtr.1947 Surrey South Western. Then checked this against death entries on GRO site where it is correctly listed as Ethel May Downe.
Annette
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I noted that Ethel appeared on electoral rolls with last entry 1947. Eventually found her death entry on Ancestry, listed as Ethel M. Bowne, Dec.qtr.1947 Surrey South Western. Then checked this against death entries on GRO site where it is correctly listed as Ethel May Downe.
Annette
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Witness? There is a Robert J A Palmer b 22 Dec 1888 - Retail Grocery & General Stores (Own Account) living on the same road as Joseph and Ethel on 1939 register - 43 Critchmere Lane, Hazlemere.
Edit: I found Joseph in 1911.
Joseph was a grocer assistant Kingston on Thames
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource
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Originally posted by annette.humphreys View PostI agree with the last suggestion, that Ethel May Pearce is the one registered Mar.1891 Midhurst, Sussex. 1891 census shows her as 4 months old (census was 5/4/1891 with would fit with mid. Nov.1890 birth).
She was actually born in Fernhurst, Sussex and in 1911 is in Midhurst, Sussex, a servant, and christian name mistranscribed as Ethal on Ancestry.
Doesn't seem to have been baptised so only way to confirm is to get copy of her birth certificate.
Annette
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
just to confirm your earlier suggestion doesn't seem correct back mother Laura Neighbour, and the Ethel is registered Evelyn Ethel, so don't think these are your people.
Fernhurst is part of Haselmere and not far from Midhurst.
...realised I had not posted this last night!
Also, I have yet to find Ethel's death if anyone wants to have a look before I get home from work haha!
Thanks everyone! I'm sure I'll be back with something else soon haha!
Tessie
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Originally posted by tessie31082 View PostGood Morning,
I'm having trouble finding this lady before her marriage to Joseph Downe in 1914.
The marriage has her father as William Pearce.
I think I have found them on FMP but I'm still not getting options for credits/micropayments so I can't see the record and I'm not sure if I'm finding a different family on Ancestry - this is what I have found so far!
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource
(I was looking at this info back in 2011 when I first started playing with family history and added altenative info, now I'm not sure it's the correct family!).
There is also this baptism (if the correct family) but can't work out what thw 1st name should be (Ethel as the 2nd name, however my Ethel uses this as 1st name so thinking it's not either the right person or family?)
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...;rhSource=7814
Can anyone find an alternative family I've not seen?
Thanks
Tessie
Fernhurst is part of Haselmere and not far from Midhurst.
...realised I had not posted this last night!
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I agree with the last suggestion, that Ethel May Pearce is the one registered Mar.1891 Midhurst, Sussex. 1891 census shows her as 4 months old (census was 5/4/1891 with would fit with mid. Nov.1890 birth).
She was actually born in Fernhurst, Sussex and in 1911 is in Midhurst, Sussex, a servant, and christian name mistranscribed as Ethal on Ancestry.
Doesn't seem to have been baptised so only way to confirm is to get copy of her birth certificate.
Annette
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
I wonder if carter was what enumerator heard car'ter - in broad country accent? not sure he would have had one.
what is address on the MC will check out papers
Unfortunately the only address written on this marriage cert is Haselmere!!!!
Tessie
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostWhat was your father's occupation - could have been the question she was asked possibly rather than whether he was alive or not. Also she was only 4/5 when the father died - would she have known his occupation? - which was a carter on 1991 census.
what is address on the MC will check out papers
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostWhat was your father's occupation - could have been the question she was asked possibly rather than whether he was alive or not. Also she was only 4/5 when the father died - would she have known his occupation? - which was a carter on 1991 census.
Witnesses on the marriage cert. are Alfred West and Robert Palmer
Tessie
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What was your father's occupation - could have been the question she was asked possibly rather than whether he was alive or not. Also she was only 4/5 when the father died - would she have known his occupation? - which was a carter on 1991 census.
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
do you have his occupation?
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Originally posted by tessie31082 View Post
Thanks Kat, however, Ethel's marriage in 1914 doesn't say her Father's deceased so not sure this is them either - good point about 1st Q of 1891 for birth reg though! Will look for all Ethel Pearce / Pierce / Pearse for last Q 1890 and 1stQ 1891.
EDIT - this birth is the only one that shows middle name May (same as marriage cert)! However, still the thing about Father not being 'deceased' on marriage cert?
Thanks
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostAnother possibility:
If Ethel M Pearce's DOB is 17 Nov 1890 then it is possible that she wasn't registered until 1st qtr 1891.
PEARCE, ETHEL MAY mmn CORNWALL
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in MIDHURST Volume 02B Page 403
Midhurst is in West Sussex.
Marriages Sep 1882 FREEBMD
Cornwall Eliza Thamar Midhurst 2b 645
PEARCE William Midhurst 2b 645
Sturt Frederick Ernest Midhurst 2b 645
Terry Ellen Jane Midhurst 2b 645
1891 census
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=282186499921
Household Members Age Relationship
William Pearll 35 Head
Eliza Pearll 28 Wife
William L Pearll 8 Son
Alice D Pearll 5 Daughter
Edith M Pearll 3 Daughter
Ethel M Pearll 4/12 Daughter
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1901 census Ethel Pierce
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=try&h=6658573
EDIT - this birth is the only one that shows middle name May (same as marriage cert)! However, still the thing about Father not being 'deceased' on marriage cert?
Thanks
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