1911 lookup (not Ancestry)

[webwiz]

Could someone kindly look up this chap and tell me the schedule number, which is not transcribed by Ancestry and I cannot see it anywhere on the image.

Name: Frederick Charles Harvey
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Chatham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Fareham
Piece: 5664

[GallowayLass]

FMP transcription

First name(s)	Frederick Charles
Last name	Harvey
Relationship	Head
Marital status	Married
Sex	Male
Age	41
Age as transcribed	41
Birth year	1870
Birth place	Kent Chartham
Birth place as transcribed	Kent Chartham
Occupation	Asylum engineer
Institution name	Hants County Lunatic Asylum
Institution description	Hants County Lunatic Asylum
Full address	Fareham, Hampshire, England
Street	-
Address	Fareham
Parish	Fareham
County	Hampshire
Country	England
Registration district	Fareham
Registration district number	92
Sub district	Fareham
Sub district number	1
Enumeration district	17
Archive reference	RG14
Piece number	5664
Schedule	9999
Census reference	RG14PN5664 RD92 SD1 ED17 SN9999
RG 78 piece number	256

[webwiz]

Thanks.

[webwiz]

I wonder where FMP get the SN from.

[teasie]

I had it in the back of my mind that institutions didn't have schedule numbers, and a quick check at the National Archives has confirmed this: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...-in-the-census

The 1911 census
For the first time the household schedules were kept, instead of being copied into enumeration books. Each piece represents an enumeration district, and instead of folio numbers, each household has a unique schedule number in the top right-hand corner, so that a reference will be in the format RG 14/26288 Sch 227.

Institutions and vessels do not have schedule numbers, instead the information was recorded directly into special enumeration books with numbered pages, as in previous census years.

If you skip back a few pages from the entry for Frederick Charles Harvey, you'll see the cover for the Enumeration Book

I think FmP have just used 9999 whenever there is no schedule number - the same Piece & Schedule number has been given to the barracks etc at Fort Fareham, Hampshire.

[webwiz]

Thanks. That explains a couple of things.