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it seems to be an area here:
Carolyn
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I have noticed that you could mine for iron or coal, and all in same areas. almost if a miner could be interchangeable. But I think a Puddler was a more skilled job, after a google around. Not sure what everyone else thinks.Carolyn
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View PostI have noticed that you could mine for iron or coal, and all in same areas. almost if a miner could be interchangeable. But I think a Puddler was a more skilled job, after a google around. Not sure what everyone else thinks.
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View PostI have noticed that you could mine for iron or coal, and all in same areas. almost if a miner could be interchangeable. But I think a Puddler was a more skilled job, after a google around. Not sure what everyone else thinks.
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Some links
Ancestry.co.uk - 1841 Wales Census
Ancestry.co.uk - 1841 Wales Census
Ancestry.co.uk - 1851 Wales Census
Originally posted by vera2013 View PostI tried a different way. Concentrated on the Mary assuming Rees. Looked for Mary b around 1841 from what looks liked Llangynyd, Brecon in the 1871. Couldn't see a Llangynyd only Llangynwyd Glam.
Browsed 1851. Lots of Puddlers and Iron Miners. Not many Rees families and on!y two with a Mary. Loads of marriages on Ancestry.
Just parking this as a possible
1851 Llangynwyd, Glam
Rees, Rees 59 Ag Lab b Carmarthen
Elizabeth 56 b Llanrid??? Glam
Thomas 24 Iron Miner b Llangy???? Glam
Hugh 21 Iron Miner b Llang?? Glam
Mary 15 b Llang?? G!am
Margaret 12 b Llang?? Glam
A Rachel aged 17 is a Servant to Farmer Living in same area
Living at haven't a clue
1841 Llangonyd
Rees, Rees 45+/- Ag lab nbic
Elizabeth 40 +/- bic
Elizabeth 9. "
Rachel 7. "
Mary 4. "
Margaret 2. "
In the same area
Thomas 12 Fs. bic
Hugh 10. Fs. "
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there is this marriage of a Margaret Rees, father rees rees and it is in John Davies pob, might be a connection
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Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource
Still no idea if these are Marys parents though!
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postthere is this marriage of a Margaret Rees, father rees rees and it is in John Davies pob, might be a connection
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=1072440
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Now having a look at John Davies b Gelligaer. Surprise, surprise there is more than one.
Gelligaer is about 30 miles from Llangynwyd.
Just noticed, when wandering off, that Mary Davies previously Powell is recorded in the 1871 as born Methvey, Carmarthenshire. So could be mother of Mgt Telfer in the ?1911 That Elaine/Carolyn found.
The 1881 was a bit.of a challenge. It records Mary Davies previously Powell as b Dowlais as well as her children. Margaret Powells dob was incorrect also should have been. 1868.
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostNow having a look at John Davies b Gelligaer. Surprise, surprise there is more than one.
Gelligaer is about 30 miles from Llangynwyd.
Just noticed, when wandering off, that Mary Davies previously Powell is recorded in the 1871 as born Methvey, Carmarthenshire. So could be mother of Mgt Telfer in the ?1911 That Elaine/Carolyn found.
The 1881 was a bit.of a challenge. It records Mary Davies previously Powell as b Dowlais as well as her children. Margaret Powells dob was incorrect also should have been. 1868.
Vera
On the 1871 census for Mary Powell her place of birth looks like Merthyr, Carmarthenshire but has been transcribed as Methvay. There is a small parish village called Merthyr in Carmarthenshire because I couldn't find any such place called Methvay.
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I would go for Mothvey https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/MothveyCarolyn
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there is this tree on Ancestry, https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tr...34951093/facts, have you contacted him? He looks like he has done a lot of research, but not put it on ancestryCarolyn
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postthere is this tree on Ancestry, https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tr...34951093/facts, have you contacted him? He looks like he has done a lot of research, but not put it on ancestry
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he has POB as Mothvey / Myddfai
ukbmd says https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/llandovery.html llandovery
Last edited by cbcarolyn; 22-09-21, 21:56.Carolyn
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Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
Just noticed, when wandering off, that Mary Davies previously Powell is recorded in the 1871 as born Methvey, Carmarthenshire. So could be mother of Mgt Telfer in the ?1911 That Elaine/Carolyn found.
Vera
The Mary Davies b Carmarthenshire was in the 1901 with Rachel Eames and family in Aberdare. She was recorded as Boarder aged 58. Sadly also Mary was blind.
Ancestry.co.uk - 1901 Wales Census
1901 Wales Census - Ancestry.co.uk
Possible burial record for Mary Davies in 1902. Buried Dowlais 25th October aged 58. Abode Aberdare.
Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994 - Ancestry.co.uk
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Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
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The Mary Davies b Carmarthenshire was in the 1901 with Rachel Eames and family in Aberdare. She was recorded as Boarder aged 58. Sadly also Mary was blind.
Ancestry.co.uk - 1901 Wales Census
1901 Wales Census - Ancestry.co.uk
Possible burial record for Mary Davies in 1902. Buried Dowlais 25th October aged 58. Abode Aberdare.
Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994 - Ancestry.co.uk
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CharlesDavies1868BirthCert.pngThis is the Charles Davies birth cert that I ordered from GRO. Still unsure if it's him but can only assume it is? It at least confirms that his mother was called Mary. Can't make out the word above Bedwellty though.
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