Can anyone help me with Ellen and her daughter Priscilla, please?
On the 1911 census, Ellen is living in Derby and is widowed - her husband Michael Fleming/Flemming/Flemings etc died in Derby in 1907 - and Ellen dies in 1931. Although none of them seem to be living with her, she has listed all her children
Ancestry.co.uk - 1911 England Census
which might not have pleased the census enumerators, but it made me happy!
Anyway, her eldest two were listed as b. in Plymouth. I have found Alfred's birth (MMN Ball) there in 1878, but not Priscilla's, which would have been c1875/6. The rest of the children (Lucy, William, Mary Elizabeth, Mary Ann and James) also have Ball as their MMN. Ellen's husband Michael (b. Derby 1855) seems to have been in the Royal Artillery and was stationed at Devonport until his discharge in 1876 (presumably where he and Ellen met). The only marriage I can find in Devon for a Michael Fleming (+ other spellings) is in 1876 to an Ellen Jayes, but I can't connect Ellen Jayes to Ellen Ball, nor can I find a birth of a Priscilla abt 1875 with Fleming (+ other spellings), Jayes or Ball as her surname.
From the 1881 census, Ellen's year of birth is 1853; 1891 is 1858; 1901 is 1854 and 1911 is 1859. I've not been able to find her on the 1861 or 1871 census.
Can anyone offer any suggestions to help find Ellen in 1861 and 1871 which would reveal her surname?
Priscilla isn't with her mother on the 1881 census (by which time Michael, Ellen and baby Alfred are in Derby), so I'm wondering if she's with one of Ellen's relatives somewhere. The only mention of her is on the 1911 census she is said to be married.
Any help/pointers/etc gratefully received.
Thanks
STG
On the 1911 census, Ellen is living in Derby and is widowed - her husband Michael Fleming/Flemming/Flemings etc died in Derby in 1907 - and Ellen dies in 1931. Although none of them seem to be living with her, she has listed all her children
Ancestry.co.uk - 1911 England Census
which might not have pleased the census enumerators, but it made me happy!
Anyway, her eldest two were listed as b. in Plymouth. I have found Alfred's birth (MMN Ball) there in 1878, but not Priscilla's, which would have been c1875/6. The rest of the children (Lucy, William, Mary Elizabeth, Mary Ann and James) also have Ball as their MMN. Ellen's husband Michael (b. Derby 1855) seems to have been in the Royal Artillery and was stationed at Devonport until his discharge in 1876 (presumably where he and Ellen met). The only marriage I can find in Devon for a Michael Fleming (+ other spellings) is in 1876 to an Ellen Jayes, but I can't connect Ellen Jayes to Ellen Ball, nor can I find a birth of a Priscilla abt 1875 with Fleming (+ other spellings), Jayes or Ball as her surname.
From the 1881 census, Ellen's year of birth is 1853; 1891 is 1858; 1901 is 1854 and 1911 is 1859. I've not been able to find her on the 1861 or 1871 census.
Can anyone offer any suggestions to help find Ellen in 1861 and 1871 which would reveal her surname?
Priscilla isn't with her mother on the 1881 census (by which time Michael, Ellen and baby Alfred are in Derby), so I'm wondering if she's with one of Ellen's relatives somewhere. The only mention of her is on the 1911 census she is said to be married.
Any help/pointers/etc gratefully received.
Thanks
STG
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