Help to find James Allen please

I was thinking that bap is him, they often call James John and visa versa.

[Golden Oldie]

Thank you all very much. That has given me some dates to work with which I never had before.
I will now see if I can find James birth as I am grateful for the death details. Also have a bit more towards John his son
Regards
Ann

[cbcarolyn]

there is a James Allen that has died, and address is union street

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1559/images/31280_198181-00225?treeid=171416310&personid=162283866094&usePUB=true&_phsrc=RcU3256&_phstart=successSource&pId=9764972

d 17 Jan 1843 age 57 buried 29 Jan

wonder if this is him in The Greenwich workhouse

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60391/images/31537_214604-00694?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=721e474ee21c8f294964896765f18329&usePUB=true&_phsrc=mrH48&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.78681620.1813705980.1619296329-489885866.1618169875&pId=8317102

just noticed this says John not James

I just found his bap too, in case it helps

John David

Allen

Male

1828

-

1828

26 Dec 1828

Greenwich

Kent

England

James

Allen

Sarah

-

[cbcarolyn]

John is in Weymouth here 1867
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...urce&pId=48534

not sure if you have ancestry?

[cbcarolyn]

Hee hee just found it too , his baptism says Union street too.

1841 Union Street Greenwich
Household Members

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

James	Allen	Male	55	1786	-
Sarah	Allen	Female	44	1797	-
George	Parker	Male	46	1795	-
Susan	Parker	Female	7	1834	Kent, England
Daniel	Harris	Male	31	1810	-
Matthew	Harris	Male	26	1815	-
William	Harris	Male	1	1840	Kent, England
Matthew	Harris	Male	4	1837	Kent, England
Thomas	Scott	Male	67	1774	Scotland
George	Moore	Male	27	1814	Scotland
John	Allen	Male	13	1828	-
E???	Pilgrim	Male	33	1808	Kent, England
Will	Pilgrim	Male	24	1817	Kent, England
James	Brotherton	Male	31	1810	-
John	Willson	Male	28	1813	-
Hanh	Parker	Female	38	1803	-

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[Golden Oldie]

Yes I have those. I thought if I could find the others then I could find birth or where he lived for James so I can go back

Regards
Ann

[cbcarolyn]

I assume you have all the other census, but can't find his early life? 1861 - 1911 seem easy to find on Ancestry.

[Golden Oldie]

I have John David Allen born 1828 in Greenwich and married Rachel Ashdown. His fathers name was James. I have been trying to find more about James but cant find anything. I tried the 1841 and 1851 census but no trace at all for the family. Mothers name was Sarah.
I know this is not a lot to go on. John went on to join, I think, the merchant navy.

Regards
Ann