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    1861 census help please

    In another attempt to trace my Great Grandmother i have come across this potential record in 1871 for Maria Rowley. born 1863. She is around the right age; but described as an orphan.

    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery.../27817979:7619

    In the same household there is a 20 year old servant Amelia Rowley. As the surnames are the same I wondered if she might be a relative and give me a clue as to how to find out more about Maria. This is where I'm having a problem - I can't find any earlier trace of Amelia . Both Maria and Amelia have had their place if birth transcriled as Prelsfield Staffordshire which is suspect might actually be Priestfield but I really don't the are tht well

    I wonder if some kind soul would have a look for me please and see if they can find Amelia in 1861?

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by Barbara Dodds; 28-03-21, 12:20.
    Barbara

    #2
    I believe Emily is a short version of Amelia? have you tried that.


    Val

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      #3
      Ooo No I hadn't thought of that

      Thanks Val
      Barbara

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        #4
        not very good on areas but this is interesting there is a Priestfield Stadium there

        https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource


        Val

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          #5
          I don't know the area at all, any experts that can pinpoint the area better? have you looked at people and dismissed them?
          Carolyn
          Family Tree site

          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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            #6
            1851 possibly?
            Amelia Rusley
            [Amelia Rowley]
            2
            abt 1849
            Daughter
            Joseph Rusley
            Amelia Rusley
            Female
            Kingswd, Staffordshire, England
            Kingswinford
            Brierley Hill
            Staffordshire
            England
            Stourbridge
            Kingswinford
            16
            View others on page
            103
            2036
            303
            28

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              #7
              Thank you GL that looks interesting.

              cbcarolyn I hadn't eliminated anyone, mainly because the nearest match I found was born 1858

              Barbara

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                #8
                Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                1851 possibly?
                Amelia Rusley
                [Amelia Rowley]
                2
                abt 1849
                Daughter
                Joseph Rusley
                Amelia Rusley
                Female
                Kingswd, Staffordshire, England
                Kingswinford
                Brierley Hill
                Staffordshire
                England
                Stourbridge
                Kingswinford
                16
                View others on page
                103
                2036
                303
                28
                I had also found them - they are here in 1871

                https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ue&pId=2652201 so can't be them, as mother still alive. not 100% sure where priestwood is
                Last edited by cbcarolyn; 28-03-21, 19:51.
                Carolyn
                Family Tree site

                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                  #9
                  registration districts for Priestfield area
                  https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/sts.html


                  Val

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                    #10
                    Its Priestfield Carolyn


                    Val

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                      #11
                      I have no idea why I wrote wood!

                      so really part of Wolverhampton?
                      Carolyn
                      Family Tree site

                      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                        #12
                        I think so Carolyn, or possibly Bilston

                        I'm only assuming Priestfield as it was the nearest match I could find to "Prelsfield"

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                        Barbara

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                          #13
                          Priestfield is Wolverhampton.

                          https://getoutside.ordnancesurvey.co...-wolverhampton

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                            #14
                            Thanks again GL


                            My elusive ancestor consistently claimed she was from Wolverhampton during her married life living in Newcastle-upon-Tyne

                            Barbara

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                              #15
                              what was her fathers name and occupation on the marriage cert?
                              Carolyn
                              Family Tree site

                              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                #16
                                William Rowley. Coal miner


                                ​​​​​​her full name was Annie Maria born 1st Jan 1862 according to the family bible
                                Barbara

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                                  #17
                                  GRO index has an Annie Maria reg Dec q 1861 Newcastle under Lyme. No mother's maiden name
                                  There is a Staffs baptism in FMP 4 Jan 1862 for an Annie Maria Rowley at Maer Heath. Mother Jane single woman

                                  Vera

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
                                    GRO index has an Annie Maria reg Dec q 1861 Newcastle under Lyme. No mother's maiden name
                                    There is a Staffs baptism in FMP 4 Jan 1862 for an Annie Maria Rowley at Maer Heath. Mother Jane single woman

                                    Vera
                                    That's all I can find and nothing for Amelia Barbara Dodds do you have a mothers name from the family bible? presumably Amelia not on family bible?
                                    Carolyn
                                    Family Tree site

                                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                      #19
                                      Thanks all

                                      I don't have anything else in the family bible for her unfortunately

                                      I have a few potential birth certificates, including the one Vera found,. None have William as father.

                                      Thanks for all the help everybody. This is a brick wall I keep coming back to.
                                      Barbara

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                                        #20
                                        Do you have mc?. I can see one for Cheshire only with William as father. Please confirm she lived Newcastle on Tyne or Lyme.

                                        Vera

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