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Does anyone know anything about name changes in the 1800s?
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Carolyn
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Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Originally posted by teasie View Post
Vera? This name-changing must be catching on haha.
I found the removal information on the East Sussex records office site.Carolyn
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Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Carolyn
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Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postwill have a wander through the papers it might just have something First up just for interest:
in the Brighton Gazette - Thursday 04 June 1835 there is an article stating that William Bray is the governor of Ringmer workhouse
Brighton Gazette - Thursday 26 December 1844 William Bray is Assistant Overseer
so I don't think William is David.
Someone else I have spoken to gave me the idea that he isn't really John Bray's son and just put that on his marriage because he was illegitimate.
There is also a John bray marrying a Charity Collins in 1792 who could have been possible parents, however, I can't find a David that was born to them.
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David’s first child appears to be Lucy, so I did wonder whether Lucy b1795 might be his mother, although that would make her rather young at the time.
Just throwing out possible connections, there was a baptism in Hooe parish 3 Jan 1779, John son of John Bray & Lucy his wife. Same parish 4 Apr 1777 John Bray married Lucy Glid, which is possibly where the name Lucy originates within the family?
This appears to be confirmed by this 1818 poor law/removal record dated 23 Oct 1818:
BRAY John the elder, wife Lucy; JPs order removing them from Ringmer to Hooe respited
This broadly coincides with the 17 July 1818 order:
BRAY John the younger, wife Margaret; John 9, Lucy 7, Sarah 5, Alice 3, Robert 1; JPs order removing them from Ringmer to Bexhill confirmed
I’m not sure how much further forward that gets us though! Could David be the illegitimate son of one of John & Lucy's other children?
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Originally posted by pinefamily View PostHave you looked for any baptisms of Davids in 1810 in Ringmer? You could trace any such individuals to rule them in or out.
I am really confused with this one.
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Originally posted by Sylvia C View PostIn your case, I assume that you have attempted to follow William John through to adulthood, marriage, etc to find out whether he was a different person?
If so, that definitely rules out him changing his name to David.
In 1854 in Battle RD there is a death of a John Bray aged 44 that may be him.
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I now believe William didn't change his name to David however, I still cannot find him before his marriage to Hannah in 1848 Portslade, Sussex.
I have searched for any David born anywhere in Sussex in 1810, but nothing seems to fit.
Could it be possible that his father wasn't John Bray and his birth parents were other people and the Bray's just took him in?
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Originally posted by LJRees10 View PostCould it be possible that his father wasn't John Bray and his birth parents were other people and the Bray's just took him in?
Just as a PS, I'm intrigued by the David Bray aged 68 buried 25 Mar 1856 in Hastings. Trying to find him before that but the closest so far is one in London.
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Originally posted by teasie View Post
Its possible, but I'd say its more likely that he was the illegitimate son of one of the Bray family - possibly a sister of the John Bray who married Margaret.
Just as a PS, I'm intrigued by the David Bray aged 68 buried 25 Mar 1856 in Hastings. Trying to find him before that but the closest so far is one in London.
David Bray Died 10 May 1886, Steyning Workhouse, Ham Road, Shoreham-By-Sea, Sussex.
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Originally posted by teasie View PostYes, I know, I provided the information about the removal at post #19
As above, I'm suggesting that David may be an illegitimate son of a sister of the John who married Margaret, ie a cousin of the children who were removed.
Anything is a possibility at this stage.
I did try and follow John and Margaret back to see if I could get any clues, but as of yet, I have nothing.
Thank you for all your help on this matter, it is much appreciated.
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When my mother was born she was registered with 2 names by her father which my Grandmother disagreed with.
To get her own back when mother was baptised my Grandmother had the name she wanted my mother to have added to the 2 names
her father had given her.
My Mother was always known by that 3rd name all through her life & only used the 2 registered names on official documents.
Perhaps that may be the same as the David in your enquiry.Bettyespana
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