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    #21
    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    the marriage is on FMP in many guises, but no obvious baptism for Elizabeth

    this is eli* pin* 1781 10 years either way - there are some pinks and pinkneys tried pi*er nothing better


    First name(s) Elisabeth
    Last name Pindar
    Birth year -
    Baptism year 1780
    Baptism date 04 Jun 1780
    Denomination Anglican
    Church St Leodegarius
    Baptism place Basford
    Father's first name(s) John
    Father's last name Pindar
    Mother's first name(s) Sarah
    Mother's last name Pindar
    This is interesting as it is the same info that I have found through other means and there is a DNA connection to it too..

    How likely is it do you think that this is flagging up that it's right?
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

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      #22
      are there any children names John or Sarah, no DNA experience at all!
      Carolyn
      Family Tree site

      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
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        #23
        Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
        are there any children names John or Sarah, no DNA experience at all!
        Nope no known children named John or Sarah.. cruddy.. eh? I need to have a look into it and see if this John/Sarah had children and if so what happens to em.
        Julie
        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

        .......I find dead people

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          #24
          others with same parentage


          First name(s) Mary
          Last name Pinder
          Birth year -
          Baptism year 1781
          Baptism date 16 Sep 1781
          Denomination Anglican
          Church St Leodegarius
          Baptism place Basford
          Father's first name(s) John
          Father's last name Pinder
          Mother's first name(s) Sarah
          Mother's last name Pinder

          these in Nottingham, could be same people then moved? Could the confusion be that first Elizabeth died and another born and baptised in Nottingham...although just noticed another Mary too...so can't be them....here they are anyway

          First name(s) Elisabeth
          Last name Pinder
          Birth year -
          Baptism year 1787
          Baptism date 16 Dec 1787
          Denomination Anglican
          Church St Mary
          Place Nottingham
          County Nottinghamshire
          Country England
          Father's first name(s) John
          Father's last name Pinder
          Mother's first name(s) Sarah

          First name(s) Mary
          Last name Pinder
          Birth year -
          Baptism year 1783
          Baptism date 23 Mar 1783
          Denomination Anglican
          Church St Mary
          Baptism place Nottingham
          Father's first name(s) John
          Father's last name Pinder
          Mother's first name(s) Sarah
          Mother's last name Pinder

          First name(s) Joseph
          Last name Pinder
          Birth year -
          Baptism year 1789
          Baptism date 07 Dec 1789
          Denomination Anglican
          Church St Mary
          Baptism place Nottingham
          Father's first name(s) John
          Father's last name Pinder
          Mother's first name(s) Sarah
          Mother's last name Pinder

          deaths:
          Pindar
          Elisabeth
          1800
          Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

          Pindar
          Mary
          1782
          Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

          Pindar
          Matthew
          1772
          Basford, Nottinghamshire, England]=

          Pinder
          Robert
          1791
          Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

          Carolyn
          Family Tree site

          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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            #25
            Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

            Nope no known children named John or Sarah.. cruddy.. eh? I need to have a look into it and see if this John/Sarah had children and if so what happens to em.
            hmm interesting... found a bunch of children two Elizabeths and one of the later bapts is 1787.. so that could be a contender?
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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              #26
              Cross posted!
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

              .......I find dead people

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                #27
                no Sarah or John deaths in Basford there are other

                First name(s) Sarah
                Last name Pinder
                Age 59
                Birth year 1756
                Residence Mount Street
                Death year -
                Burial year 1815
                Burial date 19 Feb 1815
                Denomination Anglican
                Church St Nicholas
                Place Nottingham

                First name(s) ????
                Last name Pinder
                Age 77
                Birth year 1742
                Death year 1819
                Burial year 1819
                Burial date 08 Sep 1819
                Church St Mary
                Denomination Anglican
                Place Nottingham

                First name(s) John
                Last name Pinder
                Birth year -
                Denomination Anglican
                Burial year 1825
                Burial date 30 Sep 1825
                Burial place Nottingham
                Church St Nicholas
                Residence Workhouse

                this one could be useful if it is yours...guess could be another generation
                First name(s) John
                Last name Pinder
                Death year -
                Burial year 1767
                Burial date 31 Aug 1767
                Denomination Anglican
                Place Basford
                County Nottinghamshire
                Country England
                Relative's relationship Son of
                Relative's name John Pinder
                Carolyn
                Family Tree site

                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                  no Sarah or John deaths in Basford there are other

                  First name(s) Sarah
                  Last name Pinder
                  Age 59
                  Birth year 1756
                  Residence Mount Street
                  Death year -
                  Burial year 1815
                  Burial date 19 Feb 1815
                  Denomination Anglican
                  Church St Nicholas
                  Place Nottingham

                  First name(s) ????
                  Last name Pinder
                  Age 77
                  Birth year 1742
                  Death year 1819
                  Burial year 1819
                  Burial date 08 Sep 1819
                  Church St Mary
                  Denomination Anglican
                  Place Nottingham

                  First name(s) John
                  Last name Pinder
                  Birth year -
                  Denomination Anglican
                  Burial year 1825
                  Burial date 30 Sep 1825
                  Burial place Nottingham
                  Church St Nicholas
                  Residence Workhouse

                  this one could be useful if it is yours...guess could be another generation
                  First name(s) John
                  Last name Pinder
                  Death year -
                  Burial year 1767
                  Burial date 31 Aug 1767
                  Denomination Anglican
                  Place Basford
                  County Nottinghamshire
                  Country England
                  Relative's relationship Son of
                  Relative's name John Pinder
                  ooh thank you, I guess that they are just like transcriptions and no images?
                  I think that i'd praps need to go and do a little bit of digging, but not entirely sure just who the Elizabeth Pinder is that dies in 1800...
                  Julie
                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                  .......I find dead people

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                    #29
                    yes only transcriptions, there are 2 or 3 on each, different registers. Guess a bishops transcript of some kind.
                    Carolyn
                    Family Tree site

                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                      #30
                      well, pdf's are in:

                      Elizabeth dies in 1858 Milford aged 67 years which gives a birth year of 1791 so she was 61 in 1851 census then. Benjamin present at the death.

                      Benjamin.. hmm this is a bit tricky. He dies in St Peters Derby 1861 ct2 abbey street aged 76 but the person that was present at the death is a Mary Osborn, whom I have no idea who she is!

                      Having said that half of them vanish without trace and never die as they don't appear in records!
                      Last edited by Darksecretz; 27-10-20, 12:43.
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                      .......I find dead people

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                        #31
                        Julie, have you looked on the 1861 census to see if you can find Mary near where he died. Could be a neighbour or he took up with another woman!!

                        Lin

                        Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                          #32
                          Didn't read through it all and thought it was Pinders we were looking for not Osborns. Sorry.
                          Lin

                          Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                            #33
                            I think she might be his daugher in law. Living with Thomas, born Sutton. Court No 2 No 3 House 2 Abbey St, St Werbergh.

                            Mary was born 1814 if you want to look on 1861 census.

                            Not checked if Thomas is his son!
                            Lin

                            Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                              #34
                              Originally posted by Lin Fisher View Post
                              Julie, have you looked on the 1861 census to see if you can find Mary near where he died. Could be a neighbour or he took up with another woman!!
                              her maiden name was Pinder yes she married Benjamin in 1806.

                              I haven't found Benjamin on the 1861 yet but that does look like you have found the connection. I'm tying myself in knots with this family so many names and the same names repeating.
                              Julie
                              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                              .......I find dead people

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                                #35
                                Julie, I was fed up yesterday afternoon and looked at a couple of the children

                                Joseph Osbourn 1830 married Hannah Allsop in 8153 Duffield.

                                On 1861 Belper area, she dies 1866 and he is on 1871 same area. Think he dies 1888 but can't see him on 1881 census.

                                Didn't write most of it down but will give you a start.
                                Lin

                                Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                                  #36
                                  Julie, I was fed up yesterday afternoon and looked at a couple of the children

                                  Joseph Osbourn 1830 married Hannah Allsop in 8153 Duffield.

                                  On 1861 Belper area, she dies 1866 and he is on 1871 same area. Think he dies 1888 but can't see him on 1881 census.

                                  Didn't write most of it down but will give you a start.
                                  Lin

                                  Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                                  • Darksecretz
                                    Darksecretz commented
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                                    Originally posted by Lin Fisher View Post
                                    Julie, I was fed up yesterday afternoon and looked at a couple of the children

                                    Joseph Osbourn 1830 married Hannah Allsop in 8153 Duffield.

                                    On 1861 Belper area, she dies 1866 and he is on 1871 same area. Think he dies 1888 but can't see him on 1881 census.

                                    Didn't write most of it down but will give you a start.
                                    Thank you Lin, I have been tracking some of them, but have been also tracking some of their cousins.. which is a bad thing really as I get muddled. [I know, I know]

                                    I have found Thomas's marriage to Mary as well today... I'll copy this lot across to the thread on Research so it keeps it altogether.

                                  #37
                                  Originally posted by Lin Fisher View Post
                                  Julie, I was fed up yesterday afternoon and looked at a couple of the children

                                  Joseph Osbourn 1830 married Hannah Allsop in 8153 Duffield.

                                  On 1861 Belper area, she dies 1866 and he is on 1871 same area. Think he dies 1888 but can't see him on 1881 census.

                                  Didn't write most of it down but will give you a start.
                                  Thank you Lin, I have been tracking some of them, but have been also tracking some of their cousins.. which is a bad thing really as I get muddled. [I know, I know]

                                  I have found Thomas's marriage to Mary as well today... I'll copy this lot across to the thread on Research so it keeps it altogether.
                                  Julie
                                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                  .......I find dead people

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