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    #21
    Let us know what the wills say. I love them. Sometimes they name all their children and the females married names. Just lets you know you are on the right track.
    Lin

    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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      #22
      This might be Frederick in 1939
      https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...4?pId=16839206

      not that it helps in anyway to find her maiden name!
      Carolyn
      Family Tree site

      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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        #23
        Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
        This might be Frederick in 1939
        https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...4?pId=16839206

        not that it helps in anyway to find her maiden name!
        Thank you. Living in the same street so it probably is him.

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          #24
          oh how confusing it can be. lol There are hints to a Frederick BULLEN married to Eliza Ann but the marriage is 1891 so not mine

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            #25
            NB he is in Milton Road and she is in Milton Street, but one leads to the other. It may not be him, he has been there for a few years as on the reg of electors, and seems to be very few without a middle name, but liked the fact he was in close proximity.
            Carolyn
            Family Tree site

            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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              #26
              There is no will for either of the 2 I ordered so feel a bit cheated. BUT on the probate it says Eliza Ann Smith of 52 Milton Street aforesaid the lawful widow and (something) of the said intestate. CAnt read the other word something like relict
              So according to that Eliza Ann is the lawful widow........But still not got a marriage for them unless its the one at West Ham

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                #27
                Originally posted by gloryer View Post
                There is no will for either of the 2 I ordered so feel a bit cheated. BUT on the probate it says Eliza Ann Smith of 52 Milton Street aforesaid the lawful widow and (something) of the said intestate. CAnt read the other word something like relict
                So according to that Eliza Ann is the lawful widow.
                Relict is an archaic word for widow. It comes originally from the Latin verb relinquere which means to leave behind.

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                  #28
                  https://ibb.co/PM1prm2

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post

                    Relict is an archaic word for widow. It comes originally from the Latin verb relinquere which means to leave behind.
                    Thanks I wasnt sure if I had that word right

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                      #30
                      I think my next move is to order the marriage of Frederick Pullen and Eliza Ann Smith to see if that gives any more clues
                      And if its the marriage 1928 it wont show up on the 1921 census. I am sure they did this deliberately.. lol

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                        #31
                        that was a shame about the wills.
                        Carolyn
                        Family Tree site

                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                          #32
                          Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                          that was a shame about the wills.
                          Yes I was hoping that my grandfather might have left some information in his will but alas its not to be. Dont think there are any other secrets hidden from me. Think I sussed him out. lol

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                            #33
                            Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                            If her maiden name was JOHNSON, these two are the most likely due to being nearest geographically speaking. The rest in 1 and 2Q were Lancashire and Yorkshire.
                            JOHNSON, ELIZA ANN CARTER
                            GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 124
                            JOHNSON, ELIZA ANN LEPPITT
                            GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 124
                            I looked at the members trees on ancestry and the one whose mmn is Carter was married to somebody else at the time so I think I can rule her out but I didnt see the other one on anybodys trees.

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                              #34
                              Marriage certificate ordered for Frederick Pullen and Eliza ann Smith. Hopefully that will give me some clues if not answers. I need something to work on if we have another lockdown. lol


                              Trying to work out my biological great great grandfather is very challenging

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                                #35
                                Got the certificate back today, quite quick considering the lockdowns etc. Its not very clear but Eliza Ann's father is Charles Barker, or thats what it looks like
                                https://ibb.co/7z1cRVV

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                                  #36
                                  https://ibb.co/99gKFfC

                                  so looks like the marriage at West ham Dec 1928 is feasible for George William Smith and Eliza Ann johnson


                                  She must have liked wedding cake to marry 3 times. lol

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                                    #37
                                    Do you have a Barker & Smith marriage?

                                    I see he is the Frederick down the road aww, that's nice/
                                    Carolyn
                                    Family Tree site

                                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                      #38
                                      oh my. I have been round in a full circle with this lady. She first married my 2nd great uncle John William Johnson in 1890 . Then she married my great grandfather 1928. I am now looking to see if Frederick Pullen is connected to my tree as I do have Pullen.

                                      It looks like Frederick Pullens father William Pullen is already connected to my tree he is the brother-in-law of 1st cousin 3x removed lol

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                                        #39
                                        that is interesting, I only found him in a couple of reg of electors on his own and in 1939, as a lodger I think.
                                        Carolyn
                                        Family Tree site

                                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                          #40
                                          I have found Frederick Pullen in 1881 1891 1901 married 1892 to Caroline Hannah BULLEN would you believe. lol She died 1928
                                          Thats a bit strange it says on 1911 census married less than a year..............

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