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    The Mason's Arms

    Could anyone help me searching for this pub, please?

    I have a newspaper clipping about an assault in a pub called the Mason Arms. The young man concerned (Joseph Shearsby) was living in Leamington at the time and I am writing up the story so I wanted to find out exactly where the pub was relative to where he lived.

    I have tried looking for the landlady Sarah Lambert in the 1851 census but didn't find anything helpful - too many Sarah Lamberts in Warwickshire.

    I did some Googling and found three Masons Arms pubs in the general area but they are all some distance from Leamington.

    I'd really like it to be this one in Wilmcote because I love this image of a Charlie Chaplin look-alike with his wheelbarrow. https://www.ourwarwickshire.org.uk/c...te-masons-arms

    There is also one here https://www.masons-arms-pub.co.uk/ at Long Marston near Stratford

    And this one http://www.pebworth.org/masons-arms.html at Pebworth but this is even further away.

    This is the newspaper clip from the 1852 Leamington Spa Courier




    Any thoughts how I can narrow down which pub it was?
    Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

    #2
    Just having a look but had you notice that the Mason's Arms at Long Marston was a private house until 1861 so that can be ruled out.
    Lin

    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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      #3
      I've been trying to look at the directories that Leicester university did but can't find my way round it anymore. Perhaps someone else can help there. The one I found was 1850.
      Lin

      Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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        #4
        I would search the trade directories. just put in leamington spa, date 1850 and "masons arms" in keyword and click exact in ancestry.

        found this - long time after, but is masons arms in leamington! Under Holder
        https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...64&pId=1700950
        Carolyn
        Family Tree site

        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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          #5
          the ancestry directories are the same as the Leicester uni ones, search is different, so could be worth trying both.
          Carolyn
          Family Tree site

          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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            #6
            Seems to be one in Rugby Road, Leamington, not sure in 1850 though.

            https://pubwiki.co.uk/Warwickshire/L...sonsArms.shtml
            Last edited by cbcarolyn; 04-10-20, 18:16.
            Carolyn
            Family Tree site

            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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              #7
              Useful hints there, thank you. Off to wake up my laptop as I find searching much easier on there.
              Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

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                #8
                have tried a few options, but found nothing. I wonder if there are trade directories around but not digitised.
                Carolyn
                Family Tree site

                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                  #9
                  I had a look on the BNA site and found a snippet from the year before, 1851, saying that the license of the Mason's Arms, Milverton was transferred from Robert Sidney to John Lambert. Milverton is part of Leamington Spa.
                  Linda


                  My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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                    #10
                    From the Leamington Paper
                    Attached Files
                    Linda


                    My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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                      #11
                      Brilliant! Thank you so much, Ozgirl! Every time I ask for help on here I learn a little bit more about lateral thinking. That’s a great bit of evidence for my story and in fact Milverton fits elsewhere as my man's future d.i.l was born there.
                      Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

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                        #12
                        I think the one I linked to is that one, well done Oz girl, couldn't find lambert mentioned in papers, good find.
                        Carolyn
                        Family Tree site

                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                          I think the one I linked to is that one, well done Oz girl, couldn't find lambert mentioned in papers, good find.
                          Sorry, Carolyn, I didn't mean to overlook your post but life got in the way yesterday evening and I didn't get back to following up your links.

                          Off to study some maps now.....
                          Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

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                            #14
                            I have just had a look at the 1851 census for Milverton and there is one couple called John and Sarah Lambert but he is a labourer.

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                              #15
                              Well done everyone. That was interesting.

                              Is the BNA the newspapers?
                              Lin

                              Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                                I have just had a look at the 1851 census for Milverton and there is one couple called John and Sarah Lambert but he is a labourer.
                                Maybe that was his day job and she ran the pub side of things?
                                Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                                  I have just had a look at the 1851 census for Milverton and there is one couple called John and Sarah Lambert but he is a labourer.
                                  The address for them appears to be 33 Lillington Road, Milverton so I had a look on Google maps street view and found this labelled as 35 with new houses each side. I suppose this could have been a pub but it doesn't look old enough for 1851. I'm going to search the census a bit more and see if I can find the pub somewhere else.



                                  Masons Arms Inn is in this list of Freehold pubs (number 70) so I would think they would be living in it if they owned it?
                                  http://breweryhistory.com/wiki/index...o._Ltd_pubsubs
                                  Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

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                                    #18
                                    It just occurred to me that the census took place before the transfer of the license to the Lamberts but a search for Robert Sidney in the 1851 census drew a blank, too
                                    Main research interests.. CAESAR (Surrey and London), GOODALL (London), SKITTERALL, WOODWARD (Middlesex and London), BARBER (Canterbury, Kent) and CHEESEMAN (Kent).

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Lin Fisher View Post
                                      Is the BNA the newspapers?

                                      Yes, the British Newspaper Archives. You can also access them through FindMyPast if you have that.
                                      Linda


                                      My avatar is my Grandmother Carolina Meulenhoff 1896 - 1955

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                                        #20
                                        Masons Arms, Rugby Road, Milverton. Edit: there are 3 refs to Mason's Arms on this page.

                                        http://www.leamingtonhistory.co.uk/w...2016-Final.pdf

                                        On the map there are two pubs either side of Garden Place/ Rugby Road corner opposite the Schools.

                                        https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side...=168&right=osm

                                        As it has stables and a brew house it's more likely to be the one to the left near marking BM 210-8 possibly???
                                        Last edited by Katarzyna; 05-10-20, 12:20.
                                        Kat
                                        https://www.pinterest.co.uk/katarzyna1234/my-own-cards/

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