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    2x great uncle.. mystery

    Hello! I have been searching for information about my 2x great uncle, John Stephens (known as Jack).
    He was born on 9th September 1915 in Clutton, Somerset, England to parents John Stephen Stephens and Beatrice Ashman. Jack was 1 of 10 siblings;
    • Lily Sarah Stevens Ashman born 1906
    • Beatrice Emily M Stephens 1907
    • Frances Mary Stephens 1910 (my great grandmother)
    • Martha Matilda Stephens 1911
    • William John Stephens 1912-1912
    • Alice Mary Joyce Stephens 1913
    • William “Billy” Stephens 1917
    • Baby boy Stephens 1920-1920
    • Carolyn Ann Stephens/ Davage 1931
    We know that he worked as a chef in Torbay, Devon. He also lived in and around the Torbay/ Brixham area in Devon. We also believe he died in Devon.

    Jack was married and had 2 daughters, but I do not know their names.

    I’m finding it really difficult to find anything out about him. I’m researching this for my grandmother, as it is her uncle and she would love to know what happened to him!
    Georgia Mae Simeone

    #2
    Hello Georgia,

    Do you have Jacks birth certificate at all? I see from the index that he had a middle name beginning with G, it is possible that he used the middle name as a forename. Where have you looked for him? do you sub to Ancestry or FMP?
    sorry for all the questions but it helps us to search more effectively. Also do you know if the last child that was born in 1931 has passed over? we don't permit the names of potentially living people on these posts. [sorry] if you know for a fact she has passed then we can leave the name as is.
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

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      #3
      poss death: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

      Name: John George Stephens
      Death Age: 67
      Birth Date: 9 Sep 1915
      Registration Date: Jan 1983
      Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
      Registration district: Torbay
      Inferred County: Devon
      Volume: 21
      Page: 2649

      The death cert will give name/address of person that registered the death, [that could be a family member]
      Last edited by Darksecretz; 09-07-20, 11:18.
      Julie
      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

      .......I find dead people

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        #4
        Hello, thank you for your response.
        I do not have his birth certificate but I know that his middle name is George.
        I have a subscription currently to ancestry, I did have a subscription to FMP but that had now ended, so have searched both of these sites for info.
        Carolyn passed away in 2010.
        Thank you for your help.
        Georgia Mae Simeone

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          #5
          Ah yes, thank you! I don’t know why I didn’t think to get his death certificate!! I will order it now. Thank you
          Georgia Mae Simeone

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            #6
            Originally posted by georgiasimeone View Post
            Ah yes, thank you! I don’t know why I didn’t think to get his death certificate!! I will order it now. Thank you
            I can't seem to find him on the 1939 register under Stephens, I'm using his exact date of birth and searching just with surname at the moment. I am going to try Stevens now.. I wonder if he enlisted and that is why I can't see him?
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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              #7
              Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

              I can't seem to find him on the 1939 register under Stephens, I'm using his exact date of birth and searching just with surname at the moment. I am going to try Stevens now.. I wonder if he enlisted and that is why I can't see him?
              Thank you!! I think he did enlist. I know that his younger brother William (Billy) did.
              Georgia Mae Simeone

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                #8
                I'm not finding much at all so it's not just you!
                Julie
                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                .......I find dead people

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by georgiasimeone View Post

                  Thank you!! I think he did enlist. I know that his younger brother William (Billy) did.
                  that might explain things then... once you get the death cert and know where he lived then you can possibly track down electoral rolls, which can help in seeing how long a person [and who else was living there]

                  fingers crossed you have some good luck
                  Julie
                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                  .......I find dead people

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                    #10
                    This is his birth record:
                    TEPHENS, JOHN GEORGE ASHMAN
                    GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in CLUTTON Volume 05C Page 702

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                      #11
                      There are 4 trees on ancestry 3 private - 1 of which is yours and 1 public. The public one has no known marriage or children details but it does have this photo. Have you messaged the two other private tree owners?

                      F6F6CA3E-8524-4E4A-A666-E240F25807BA.jpeg

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                        #12
                        ooh another Carolyn - how lovely - there are not so many around.
                        Carolyn
                        Family Tree site

                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                          #13


                          have you searched the newspapers?
                          Somerset Standard 26 May 1972




                          jack stephens.JPG
                          Last edited by cbcarolyn; 09-07-20, 13:28.
                          Carolyn
                          Family Tree site

                          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                            There are 4 trees on ancestry 3 private - 1 of which is yours and 1 public. The public one has no known marriage or children details but it does have this photo. Have you messaged the two other private tree owners?

                            F6F6CA3E-8524-4E4A-A666-E240F25807BA.jpeg
                            Ah yes, that’s my cousin! I gave her that pic of jack ☺️☺️
                            Georgia Mae Simeone

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

                              have you searched the newspapers?
                              Somerset Standard 26 May 1972




                              jack stephens.JPG
                              omg!! Thank you! This looks like to could be him. I didn’t even think to look at newspapers.
                              Georgia Mae Simeone

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                                #16
                                A great find - a potted history. I did spot a few others - just about him retiring from being secretary.
                                Carolyn
                                Family Tree site

                                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                  #17
                                  What a shame it doesn’t say the year he married and his wife’s forename. I see he worked in a hotel in Bath till 1939. I wonder if that’s where he married and the 3 daughters were born?

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                                    #18
                                    I tried that but no joy. However I did find a 1944 marriage in Poole, Dorset to Myrtle M IRVEN and there are births of 3 girls in Poole to that combination of surnames.
                                    Myrtle Marian STEPHENS died 26 September 1996 Mendip, Somerset and there is a grant and will proved at Oxford Registry. She was born 1915 so of the same age as John George STEPHENS.
                                    Could that be her do you think?

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                                      #19
                                      Not finding a birth in UK that fits her.

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                                        #20
                                        Picture of him in the paper 1967 and an article about him and his advice to refs

                                        Torbay Express and South Devon Echo 04 February 1967

                                        Attached Files
                                        Elaine

                                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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