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  • John Cullington died New Zealand 1895

    Have at last found this chap in New Zealand. John was from Norfolk and have all the info on him I need except for the gaps in NZ. However, I found his death certifcate in a 1910 file saying he had died intestate

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    and this file about George Cullington, who would be his son who died in Heigham, mother Elizabeth Todd....Bessie Todd on John's death certificate as wife

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    Have looked at NZ archives where George's papers are also, nothing extra but John's is not archived and you are directed to the IGI, same set again.

    No problem so far as I can tie in the death of George in Heigham.

    Need help with a couple of things

    1. John dies but is apparently married to Harriet with one son William John Cullington...John's certificate only mentions Bessie Todd, occupation for father matches

    https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/d...pid=IE48687569

    William's wife confirms his mother's name as Harriet and have NZ BMD reference

    Harriet's death 1915 states she is widow of John, electoral rolls have them together from 1881. Passenger list has him arriving alone Dec 1863.

    there's nothing in papers past to suggest a settlement at any point.

    Do you think this is all the paperwork that has survived ?
    George's paperwork is dated 1912 but I would have thought that should have been included in John's file.


    2. Who is Harriet, did they marry as no mention of a second marriage?

    Harriet dies 1915 at her son's residence Hardington Street as Harriett, relict of the late John Cullington

    John's death looks to have been registered as Cullingham 1895, would the 1910 certificate be a copy of this ?












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    Elaine

    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

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  • #2
    Hi. Don't think I can help at all but really enjoyed reading through it all.

    I would say the 1895 death certificate was copied for the 1910 papers.

    Could be that John and Harriet never got married. Is William John, the son, the same one that is mentioned as being 27 on the death cert. Can you get his birth cert to see what Harriet's maiden name was.



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    Lin

    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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    • #3
      Sorry I don't think I can be any help at all, have you searched Ancestry for the marriage? I can have a look through as have temp access to WW with the library.

      Interesting that it was 15 years later.
      Carolyn
      Family Tree site

      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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      • #4
        I have looked for a marriage but can't find one and who the sons are is debateable due to the children left in Norfolk.
        Elaine

        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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        • #5
          This is what I have

          1851 HO107/1815/175//42
          Town Close, Liberty Town Close, Norwich, Norfolk
          John Cullington Head Mar 27 Gardener Norwich, Norfolk
          Elizabeth Cullington Wife Married 25 Norwich, Norfolk, England
          John Cullington Son 5 Norwich, Norfolk, England
          Arthur Cullington Son 2 Norwich, Norfolk, England
          Mrs Todd Visitor 45 Norwich, Norfolk, England

          1851 HO107/1816/247/37
          3 Kings Square, Hamlet of Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk
          Ann Todd Head Widow 57 Parochial Relief Norwich, Norfolk
          Maria Todd Dau Unmar 35 Bobbin Filler Norwich, Norfolk
          William Todd Son Unmar 24 Foundryman Jour Norwich, Norfolk
          Daniel Todd Son Unmarr 22 Norwich, Norfolk
          Arthur Todd Son Unmarr 19 Comber Norwich, Norfolk
          Sarah Todd Dau Unmarr 16 Servant Norwich, Norfolk
          ***George Cullington Grand Son 3 Norwich, Norfolk

          1861 RG09/1219/52/27
          Rupert Street, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk
          John Cullington Head Mar 37 Agricultural Labourer Norwich, Norfolk
          Maria Todd Housekeeper Unmar 44 1817 Norwich, Norfolk
          George Cullington Son 14 Norwich, Norfolk
          James Cullington Son 6 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk
          Henry Cullington Son Unmarried 10 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk
          Elizabeth Cullington Dau Unmar 4 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk

          1871 RG10/1819//110/19
          Rupert Street, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk
          Arthur Todd Head 39 Shoe Maker Norfolk, England
          Maria Todd Sister 54 Invalid Norfolk, England
          George Cullington Nephew 25 labourer in Iron Work Norfolk, England
          Elizabeth Cullington Niece 14 Scholar Norfolk

          I can't find anything for Arthur after 1851
          George died 1903
          James ? ....marries in Durham, have him 1881 and his wife remarries by 1891
          Henry died 1927




          Elaine

          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

          http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
          http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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          • #6
            I've had a good look and not found anything you haven't already got, sorry.
            Lin

            Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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            • #7
              No worries Lin, thanks for looking
              Elaine

              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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              • #8
                Pretty sure there was a note on the NZ BMD site saying records pre 1875 are patchy.....but can't spot any info about it now.

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                • #9
                  I was thinking about this last night and realised my 4 x G Grandfathers sister emigrated to New Zealand in 1841/2. I have some info that was sent to me from New Zealand years ago. Decided to have a look on Family Search this morning and found loads and some images.

                  I will be busy today.
                  Lin

                  Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kylejustin View Post
                    Pretty sure there was a note on the NZ BMD site saying records pre 1875 are patchy.....but can't spot any info about it now.
                    I came across that on the NZ site aswell, it's annoying when William John's birth is there

                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                    • #11
                      Lin...there's quite a few bits IGI and NZ archives is worth a look
                      Elaine

                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                      • #12
                        Thanks, I am onfamily search at the moment and found some deaths I did know quite a lot from someone in New Zealand but there is so much more now. Also found 2 wills.
                        Lin

                        Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                          I can't find anything for Arthur after 1851
                          Have you ruled out the Arthur Cullington in New Zealand? Age is slightly out but there is a death in 1926, aged 79, and he features once or twice in the newspapers. It looks like he married Mary Lynas in 1878 and then in 1899 there is a marriage between Arthur Cullington and Annie Lynas

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                          • #14
                            I haven't ruled it out but can't connect it all as I don't have enough info about Arthur.
                            Elaine

                            Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                            http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                            http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                            • #15
                              Ancestry is showing me Arthur Herbert Cullington b NZ ww1 records b 17 Feb 1890, his father Arthur (b Norfolk) and mother Anna.
                              Carolyn
                              Family Tree site

                              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                              • #16
                                I remember looking on NZ archives and then I came across the death certificate so this had slipped my mind. Thank you, was never sure if he married twice and of course he doesn't leave a will!
                                Elaine

                                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                • #17
                                  The newspapers say that John died at Onehunga, and newspaper reports in March 1876 mention Arthur Cullington single man of of Onehunga. Not conclusive, but added to the information posted by Carolyn, it does look promising.

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                                  • #18
                                    Absolutely Teasie, am always cautious after a cousin of mine put a line of the family together before buying the marriage certicate, same names and occupation but totally the wrong people. Wish I could find Arthur 1861.
                                    Elaine

                                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                    • #19
                                      Think I've cracked it, just found a blog with 3 burials and went back to the papers. Looking a bit further forward, the Cullington's are mentioned as being of Inkerman Street which happens to be where John lived.
                                      Elaine

                                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                      • #20
                                        good find - this is Arthur?
                                        Carolyn
                                        Family Tree site

                                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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