Nicolas Lehalle

[Frazzled]

Please could someone who has world Ancestry do a look up for me. Nicolas Lehalle married Anna Clara Wirtz and they are recorded in Germany, selected marriages.

There is also a death registration for Nicolas Lehalle in Monchengladbach. Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.

[cbcarolyn]

I don't have world ancestry, have you tried your library on line? I noticed that mine are offering it at home until April 2020...although sadly ours has a broken link in Bedfordshire, Bromley is apparently working.

[Frazzled]

Thank you for the reply but unfortunately I don't live in England and my small library didn't have Ancestry last time I asked!

[cbcarolyn]

was worth a shot - BTW It is a worldwide thing a quick google returned a library in Canada with free home access.

[Frazzled]

Checked again, my library do basic Ancestry which I have but not worldwide sadly, ah well

[teasie]

My German is non-existent, so going from what I can read plus the brief transcription, the death/certificate is 24 Apr 1882 and seems to be for Franziska Margaretha Krauss, wife of Johann Anton Krauss & daughter of Nicolas Lehalle & Clara Wirtz.

The Select Marriages only bring up transcriptions, which appear to relate to children - possibly baptisms - but it really isn’t clear and there are no dates. The data is said to originate from Familysearch.

Name: Nicolas Lehalle
Spouse: Anna Clara Wirtz
Child: Franz Joseph Lehalle

Name: Nicolas Lehalle
Spouse: Anna Clara Wirtz
Child: Martin Joseph Hubert Lehalle

Name: Nicolas Lehalle
Spouse: Clara Wirtz
Child: Martin Joseph Lehalle

Name: Nicolas Lehalle
Spouse: Maria Clara Wirtz
Child: Francisca Margaretha Lehalle

[Frazzled]

Thank you teasie that's fantastic. Franziska is my 3x GGrandmother, I've been trying to find out where she was born for a long time now....one day.

[Karamazov]

Thank you teasie that's fantastic. Franziska is my 3x GGrandmother, I've been trying to find out where she was born for a long time now....one day.

Hi Caroline,
These are the details of her marriage:
Name: Francisca Margaretha Lehalle
Gender:Female
Age: 21
Marriage Date:7 Mai 1835 (7 May 1835)
Marriage Place: Civil, Juelich, Rheinland, Prussia
Father :Nicolas Lehalle
Mother: Maria Clara Wirtz
Spouse:Johann Anton Hubert Krauss
FHL Film Number:920866Reference ID:2:26VG1S7

Christine

[Karamazov]

And these are the details of her death. I'll send you a copy of the image - the writing is quite tricky to decipher. I haven't managed to find a birth/bap record for her unfortunately. There are baptism records for some of her children though. Let me know if there's anyone else you want to follow up.

Name: Franziska Margaretha Krauss
[Franziska Margaretha Lohalle]
Birth Date:abt 1814
Age :68
Death Date:22 Apr 1882
Death Place:Mönchengladbach Nordrhein-Westfalen (North Rhine-Westphalia) Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office:Mönchengladbach-Mitte
Father:Nicolaus Lehalle
Mother :Clara Wirtz
Spouse:Johann Anton Krauss
certificate Number:393

Christine

[Frazzled]

Thank you for the information Christine and for sending me the image, as you say the writing is a challenge!! I have the baptisms for Johann and Francisca's children thanks and I've managed to find the birth years for Francisca and her siblings through marriage records on familysearch and now this death cert. Sadly I don't know where they were born or where Nicolas and Anna were married. There is a story in the family that they came from Alsace Lorraine but so far I can't prove it.

[kylejustin]

Have you thought about having these records translated? They often do say where people come from.

[ozgirl]

The death reg for Franzisca Margaretha does say she was born in Juelich.

[Frazzled]

Thank you Kylejustin and ozgirl for your help, by trying to resurrect my schoolgirl German and using google I had managed to workout that Franzisca was born in Juelich. Plus with help from Christine I found the death reg of Johann Anton Krauss, Franzisca's husband. He was also born in Juelich which is a great find but still no link with Alsace Lorraine!!

[kylejustin]

The link could be generations back from what you have.

[Frazzled]

True. Fransisca was born 1814 and her eldest brother was born 1803 so their father Nicolas Lehalle was born somewhere around 1775 maybe. There are a few Lehalle members listed on familysearch born in Fleury-Douaumont, Meuse, Lorraine, France but no records for Nicolas. Will have to keep searching in Germany and France!

[kylejustin]

You should bear in mind that not much is online for germany, and the french records generally are via the departement archives websites, but unindexed and are you will need to know where he is from. But father's names at least for german records and both parents names for french records are covered by marriages in this time frame.

[Frazzled]

Yes it's slow work finding French and German relatives and I know you have more experience than me on that front. I have another German line the Kleins who married into the Krauss family. My 2x GGrandfather came to England in 1871 and I only know he came from Lohmar when his naturalization papers became available but that is another story!