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Carolyn
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Just an update. Checked out the hotspot for the Irish community in Marylebone. Poor enumerator. He noted in the census form a message to Registrar that he should be aware of the difficulties of one person assigned to the area as the forms had not been completed - were they ever? - and that not only did he not have a table to use, there wasn't even a chair. It took him 2 weeks to complete and even then he missed those at the back. And I didn't find one Larkin in the area.
Still looking at the NA. Lots of possibilities for William but you would need to take your bed to wade through them if you visit. Not come across any 1860 attestations for the 59th.
Vera
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostJust an update. Checked out the hotspot for the Irish community in Marylebone. Poor enumerator. He noted in the census form a message to Registrar that he should be aware of the difficulties of one person assigned to the area as the forms had not been completed - were they ever? - and that not only did he not have a table to use, there wasn't even a chair. It took him 2 weeks to complete and even then he missed those at the back. And I didn't find one Larkin in the area.
Still looking at the NA. Lots of possibilities for William but you would need to take your bed to wade through them if you visit. Not come across any 1860 attestations for the 59th.
Vera
I had been contacted by a lady whose grandmother was Alice Adele TRANSFIELD. [remember them?] my reply went as follows:
Flora Druscilla Brown was the daughter of William Atwood Brown and Jane Larkin/s. Jane Larkin/s married Thomas E Transfield. I have both Larkin/s and Browns in my tree and was attempting to see where/how they connected. I haven't found a connection as of yet. I do have the birth PDF of Flora should you wish a copy of it.
she had never been able to find any details of Jane Larkins/Transfield
I found the death details for Jane Transfield Brown
Name: Jane Transfield Brown
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 38
Registration District: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 104
She ordered the cert and it is her relation!.. she was over the moon with it and couldn't thank me enough... to me it's just what you do, find info and pass it on.
this new information has opened up a whole new avenue for her to research, so whilst we might not be related we have all helped someone else on their family quest.
Julie
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that's great - I feel there is always some pass it forward in family tree, help can't always be repaid.Carolyn
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postthat's great - I feel there is always some pass it forward in family tree, help can't always be repaid.Originally posted by vera2013 View PostGood news. Lovely for her to have the opportunity for further research.
Vera
Though I am finding contacting Kates extended family just don't want to know.... Perhaps it's me?Julie
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I've been sitting playing about with Irish naming patterns.... and I'm still not sure I'm anymore further on!
It didn't hit me until I sat looking at the names of their 10 children.. [they had 13 but I have only the names for 10] I suspect I'll need to find the missing ones before it might make more sense?Julie
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Well, I think that I have found two of the three missing children, but the third is being a little problematic. I 'think' it was a girl and I have no idea really which one it could be..... there are quite a few Skelton girls with MMN of Brown. FMP search wasn't any help as that didn't even show half of them...
I have found two burials for the boys.... but I can't tie the address down to the family as it was in between census... hmmmJulie
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Originally posted by Darksecretz View PostWell, I think that I have found two of the three missing children, but the third is being a little problematic. I 'think' it was a girl and I have no idea really which one it could be..... there are quite a few Skelton girls with MMN of Brown. FMP search wasn't any help as that didn't even show half of them...
I have found two burials for the boys.... but I can't tie the address down to the family as it was in between census... hmmm
I was pointed in the direction of some school records, which it mentions the address where Robert and Richard and William James Skelton lived and it matches with the place of death for Edward and Harry.
Just one missing child now. This is what I have:
Richard - 1887
William James - 1889
Robert - 1892
Harry - 1894
Mabel - 1896
Edward - 1896
Annie - 1897
Kate - 1899
George Arthur - 1902
Theresa - 1904
Harry - 1907
Ernest - 1911
and then the missing child.Julie
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Originally posted by Darksecretz View Postahh and now GRO's showing a 500 error!!!Julie
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Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post
I have had a bit of luck confirming some children that had been born/died to Kate Skelton.. Just one left now to find.
I was pointed in the direction of some school records, which it mentions the address where Robert and Richard and William James Skelton lived and it matches with the place of death for Edward and Harry.
Just one missing child now. This is what I have:
Richard - 1887
William James - 1889
Robert - 1892
Harry - 1894
Mabel - 1896
Edward - 1896
Annie - 1897
Kate - 1899
George Arthur - 1902
Theresa - 1904
Harry - 1907
Ernest - 1911
and then the missing child.Carolyn
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did find edith - but then edited as saw Harry in same qtr, so not right !
SKELTON, HARRY BROWN GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 696 SKELTON, EDITH BROWN GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD Volume 07B Page 18 Last edited by cbcarolyn; 25-11-21, 18:18.Carolyn
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I think that this is such a long thread, that maybe you need to recap where you are stuck, I don't recall all the details now. can see there were rabbit holes I went down, but managed to get back on trackCarolyn
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postdid find edith - but then edited as saw Harry in same qtr, so not right !
SKELTON, HARRY BROWN GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 696 SKELTON, EDITH BROWN GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD Volume 07B Page 18
births would have been Nottingham, Chesterfield, or Sheffield, the only other thing I can come up with is a stillbirth [which would be on a separate register?] but thought that came in in the 1920s, either that or she miscarried later in her pregnancy.Julie
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View PostI think that this is such a long thread, that maybe you need to recap where you are stuck, I don't recall all the details now. can see there were rabbit holes I went down, but managed to get back on trackJulie
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I find it interesting that she had 2 children only with a middle name.Carolyn
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Have looked at gaps for births Chesterfield, Nottingham, Sheffield
1889-1892 Chesterfield, Nottingham
1899-1902 Sheffield
1904-19O7 Sheffield
19O7-1911 Sheffield
Not seeing a Skelton/Brown
There is an Annie Maria Brown 1886 M q Nottingham no mmn. Adopted by Clarke family
Will check deaths
Vera
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View PostI find it interesting that she had 2 children only with a middle name.
Originally posted by vera2013 View PostHave looked at gaps for births Chesterfield, Nottingham, Sheffield
1889-1892 Chesterfield, Nottingham
1899-1902 Sheffield
1904-19O7 Sheffield
19O7-1911 Sheffield
Not seeing a Skelton/Brown
There is an Annie Maria Brown 1886 M q Nottingham no mmn. Adopted by Clarke family
Will check deaths
Vera
Originally posted by vera2013 View PostOn GRO.
Death
Elizabeth Skelton 1909 Dec Q Sheffield aged 0
9c 256
Can't see bc
On Ancestry
Elizabeth Skelton
Born abt 1909
Died 1909 Dec Q aged 0
Sheffield
9c 256
Vera
I might be able to see where she is buried... though for some reason I cannot see her on GRO to get her MMN.
Julie
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