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  • Can anyone help with OH's Cotterell family please in 1851

    Rather than do any housework I decided to put a bit of effort into OH's side which I havent looked at for 5 years

    Anyway, of course found a toughie immediately. Can anyone find this lot in 1851 please and any baps? Many thanks.

    He has a GGFx2, Henry Charles Cotterell (sometimes Cotterill) born 1818 in Birmingham, a gun maker (Im tackling this one because I remembered OH had no interest whatsoever in dead people until I told him his ancestors were gunmakers which gave him a real smile as his first job was as a gunmaker in London - amazing how genes out) Anyways, I just started looking at this chap again to see what I could find further back on him. Its a pain.

    PMSL, when I was looking I was really pleased to find a website with his 1841 census details on it, which I hadnt been able to find at all on ancestry - when I looked, it was my own home page from 2006!! Id completely forgotten about it, shows how you should check and recheck. So at least I have the 1841 census again which shows him as a gun maker journeyman living in Birmingham with wife Mary b 1821 (ish) and a year old son William.

    I cant find him in 1851 but in 1859 he married a widow, Sarah Hands, nee Gately. He gave dad as Charles Cotterell, gunmaker.

    In 1861 he is in London, Bermondsey apparently with wife, Charlotte ? enumerator mistake?, born Birmingham. (Agnes is OH's direct ancestor)

    Henry Cottrell 42
    Charlotte Cotterill 39
    William Cotterill 19
    James Cotterill 17
    Sarah Cotterill 15
    Selina Cotterill 13
    Carolin Cotterill 10
    Alice Cotterill 8
    Agnes Cotterill 6
    Harry Cotterill 4
    Alfred Cotterill 11 Months

    In 1871 in southwark Sarah born Brum again:


    Name Age
    Henry Cotterell 53
    Sarah Cotterell 51
    Agnes Cotterell 16
    Henry Cotterell 14
    Alfred Cotterell 12
    Last edited by Heather Positive Thinker; 07-11-12, 12:47.

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    1851 - transcribed as Henry Catnell
    Begin your discovery today by exploring the world's largest online family history resource!

    HO107; Piece: 2058; Folio: 417; Page: 27
    Elaine







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    • #3
      Oh lovely Elaine, Ive just discovered it myself and came back to report, but you beat me to it

      Did you see he is deaf? I wonder if that was from birth on an occupational accident.


      At least it now clears up the mother of OHs GGM, as it was getting very confusing with the wrong name on the 1861 census. Many thanks indeed. Still at a loss on his parentage apart from Charles and funnily a lot of the kids marriages not showing.

      Very grateful
      Last edited by Heather Positive Thinker; 07-11-12, 13:18.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Heather Positive Thinker View Post

        Did you see he is deaf? I wonder if that was from birth on an occupational accident.
        l
        No, hadn't noticed that. Could well be related to occupation.
        Elaine







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        • #5
          First marriage to a Mary Edwards or Mary Spencer
          Birmingham Apr-May-Jun 1839

          so Spencer then from 1841

          1841 Census
          COTTRELL, Charles age 50 gunmaker
          BIRMINGHAM, Warwickshire
          HO107 piece 1144 folio 2/12 page 16

          Charles at 159 Livery Street Court, Birmingham
          Henry at 8 Livery Street Court, Birmingham
          Last edited by Elaine; 07-11-12, 22:17.
          Elaine

          Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

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          • #6
            For Alice


            London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alice Cotterell
            Name: Alice Cotterell
            Spouse Name: Walter White
            Record Type: Marriage
            Event Date: 2 Apr 1872
            Parish: Lambeth St Mary
            Borough: Lambeth
            Father Name: Henry Charles Cotterell
            Spouse Father Name: Daniel White
            Register Type: Parish Register

            father gunmaker
            Elaine

            Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

            http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
            http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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