John (Jack) Raymond born 1866, died Bayswater Australia 1957. Had sister Elizabeth Toby also lived in Bayswater. Jack Had 2 daughters, Beattie and Elsie. trying to find information about his parents . Jack's sister was the mother of my Grandmother Lillian Toby Clapham.
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Hello Renshi
welcome to the forum, I do hope that you find some help,
I must mention that we do not permit living peoples names to be put on threads, if you know that the person is living and you would like some help then you can state that the person is living and you can ask members to PM (private message) you about the information on the forum. Alternately, should the research be of a sensitive nature then we can move a thread to a members only area. (as Research Requests, is cached by google)Julie
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you have to give more information. is john raymond the full name or is his surname toby? what dates for elizabeth or her daughter do you have? where was john born? who did he marry? when were his daughters born? i assume you have elizabeth's marriage or death certs, what are her parents names?
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John Raymond
Originally posted by kylejustin View Postyou have to give more information. is john raymond the full name or is his surname toby? what dates for elizabeth or her daughter do you have? where was john born? who did he marry? when were his daughters born? i assume you have elizabeth's marriage or death certs, what are her parents names?
John Raymond- born 1866 possibly Gloustershire England, died 15 June 1957 in Baywater Western Australia
daughter Elsie- sons Roger and Paul both married late 1966 or early 1967
daughter Beatttie Or Beatrice- children John, Frank, Joan, Nora
John Raymond's sister Elizabeth Raymond married Thomas J. Toby who immigrated to western Australia in 1910-1912
It is beleived that John Raymond immigrated at the same time.
I have cemetary certificates for John Raymond, Elizabeth Raymond-Toby and Thomas Toby.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Originally posted by Renshi View PostIn contacting the orphanage, Elizabeth Raymond came up with different siblings and no John Raymond. But we are certain of them being in an orphanage and because we have a statuette from George Muller Orphanage said to be given to her on discharge we are confident of this.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
do you know what the 'other' siblings names were that were in the orphanage with Elizabeth please.
I have found a census from 1871 listing a John and Elizabeth, do you have access to Ancestry at all? [and presumably you have any passenger info of their immigration]Julie
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just parking these here:
1851:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...ki1851&indiv=1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1948; Folio: 170; Page: 30; GSU roll: 87348.
1861:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=7619
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1723; Folio: 17; Page: 28; GSU roll: 542857.
1871: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...=try&h=1032042
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2534; Folio: 50; Page: 4; GSU roll: 835260
am just going to have a look to see if I can find them in the later census.
do you have Elizabeths marriage certificate at all? this should name her father and his occupation.Julie
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On the Trove site, there is an entry for John Raymond and Miss Elsie Raymond arriving in Western Australia on SS Orama abt 15 Dec 1924, as a nominated immigrant. The 1925 electoral rolls show John Raymond, farmer at Balingup (a small town in the Sth West of the State) which is consistent with the records I have found for his daughter beatrice, who married Francis A MAUGER in 1921.
The death record for John Raymond states his parents were James and Honora.
I looked for his family in 1911 and found him living at 57 Avarn Rd Tooting, with wife Alice and both daughters, born in Bristol. He was a laboratory assistant for a chemist manufactuary.
I found a marriage to Alice Powls 19 Jul 1897 in Wandsworth, no parents mentioned, but the date fits in well with the birth of the first daughter Beatrice in 1899 in Battersea .
Looking further back, in 1871 there is a Raymond family, headed by the widowed Norah,48, b. Cork Ireland with the following children;
Ellen,16; Agnes,14;Elizabeth,11; Emma,10;Wiliam,7;John,4; all born Bristol
1861
James Raymond,31,house painter,b. Crediton
Norah Raymond,wife,35,charwoman,b. Cork Ire
Kate Raymond,dau,9,scholar,b.Bristol
Ellen Raymond,dau,6
Agnes Raymond,dau,4
Elizabeth Raymond,2
James Raymond,2 months
Emma Raymond, 2 months....all born Bristol
Beverley
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Beatrice MAUGER nee Raymond had four children (won't post here as they may still be living)
Elsie Nora Raymond married Cecil Geoffrey BRINKLOW and their only child, Geoffrey Raymond BRINKLOW died 16 Feb 1935 aged about two and a half years.
Beverley
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this might be why the children were placed in orphanage
Name: Ann Nora Raymond
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1871
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 35
i'll see if I can find James'
Name: James Raymond
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1866
Age at Death: 42
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 40Last edited by Darksecretz; 26-09-12, 17:11.Julie
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there is this Ancestry tree too
and another tree
Last edited by Darksecretz; 26-09-12, 17:33.Julie
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Originally posted by Macbev View PostJohn's wife Alice died 29 Nov 1923.....explains his emigration, I guess (details on Probate in Ancestry
JayJanet in Yorkshire
Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree
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