i've been looking at my john coen again, and think i may solved him, but i wonder if i am clutching at straws.
john coen was the name of the father given on the birth certificate of adolphine scharlotte augusta wilhelmine at bethel in south australia on 16 oct 1864. her mother was frederike wilhelmine elisabeth eisfelder, and i have her sorted now.
i wrote to the south australia library, and the thought john coen went on to marry elizabeth green at hanson, SA in 1877. his father was given as matthew, and the library said he was a shepherd from forestgreen near nailsworth in gloucester. john and elizabeth had three children, john joseph b.1877, thomas henry b.1879 and henry b.1886 all at kooringa, SA. this is where the library got stuck.
today i looked for any coen marriages with father matthew, and found 4: elisabeth 1870, james 1880, hannah 1887 and the above for john. trove had an announcement for james' marriage and mentioned matthew coen was from yongala. googling that, i found an emmigration story, and learned matthew came to australia in 1853, and was born around 1822.
using that site, i learned matthew had married a hannah poplete/poplett/poplitt (b.1821, st margaret westminster) in 1844 st pancras, london. he came to australia with 4 of 5 known children, including son john b.1852 in the st martin in the fields workhouse. matthew and hannah had four more children in south australia, in yangannen, coonatto and the last in pekina, near adelaide. so they travelled from the north, probably down through the district bethel lies in on their way to adelaide. matthew died in adelaide in 1896, and no death for hannah has been found.
so i guess i am asking if a 12 year old john coen fathered a child with a 22 year old wilhelmina eisfelder? i cannot see another john coen, and am wondering if he's name was made up? i think i am clutching at straws.
john coen was the name of the father given on the birth certificate of adolphine scharlotte augusta wilhelmine at bethel in south australia on 16 oct 1864. her mother was frederike wilhelmine elisabeth eisfelder, and i have her sorted now.
i wrote to the south australia library, and the thought john coen went on to marry elizabeth green at hanson, SA in 1877. his father was given as matthew, and the library said he was a shepherd from forestgreen near nailsworth in gloucester. john and elizabeth had three children, john joseph b.1877, thomas henry b.1879 and henry b.1886 all at kooringa, SA. this is where the library got stuck.
today i looked for any coen marriages with father matthew, and found 4: elisabeth 1870, james 1880, hannah 1887 and the above for john. trove had an announcement for james' marriage and mentioned matthew coen was from yongala. googling that, i found an emmigration story, and learned matthew came to australia in 1853, and was born around 1822.
using that site, i learned matthew had married a hannah poplete/poplett/poplitt (b.1821, st margaret westminster) in 1844 st pancras, london. he came to australia with 4 of 5 known children, including son john b.1852 in the st martin in the fields workhouse. matthew and hannah had four more children in south australia, in yangannen, coonatto and the last in pekina, near adelaide. so they travelled from the north, probably down through the district bethel lies in on their way to adelaide. matthew died in adelaide in 1896, and no death for hannah has been found.
so i guess i am asking if a 12 year old john coen fathered a child with a 22 year old wilhelmina eisfelder? i cannot see another john coen, and am wondering if he's name was made up? i think i am clutching at straws.
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