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  • Harriett and Emily - born in the USA?

    Hello,

    I wonder if anyone can help me with some possible America research.

    A relative of mine died in 1899. The Probate Index says probate is granted to Emily White Davenport and Harriett Lottie Davenport, spinsters.

    All I have been able to find for these two ladies is their own entries in the National Probate Calendar (1945 and 1954).

    I also found them on the 1911 census. One gives place of birth as USA and the other as New Jersey, USA.

    I have them in 1901 and an announcement about them becoming bankrupt in 1909, but other than that I know nothing.

    From what I have found, I believe they moved to England in the early 1890s, but their life before that is a real mystery to me.

    Can anyone help at all?

    Many thanks,
    Tom

    Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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    Haven't got access to worldwide Tom, so can't help with look ups, unfortunately - however, when were your ladies born and was the relative single and/or childless?
    Does the probate record state whether they were made executrices or did they apply for powers to administer the estate?

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    • #3
      Woops, sorry Janet.

      I had previously though John had died childless, but now I think they must be his children.

      I have not got their father on the census after he married in 1869 but I assumed I had just been very unlucky with mistranscriptions because I knew I had his (and his wife's deaths in the 1890s). Now it is looking likely that he went to America.

      Anyway,

      Emily White Davenport born c1876.
      Harriett Lottie Davenport born c1872.

      The Probate Index says "... died 24 March 1899 Administration (with Will) London 23 May to Harriett Lottie Davenport and Emily White Davenport Spinsters."
      Last edited by Tom Tom; 19-08-12, 22:24.

      Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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      • #4
        There is a marriage of Emily White Davenport to Joseph H Mills in 1899 in Monongalia, West Virginia, United States. There's only the transcription on Ancestry and no image unfortunately.
        Last edited by LangleyValeSue; 19-08-12, 22:54.
        My avatar is my Great Grandmother Emma Gumbert

        Sue at Langley Vale

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        • #5
          That is interesting and very confusing.

          She says she is a spinster in 1901 and 1911.

          Think I may have to purchase their wills and some certificates and see what comes from that.

          I wonder if I would be able to buy that American marriage certificate? I have no experience of research in America.

          Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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          • #6
            In 1880 USA census there is John A Davenport, a dry goods salesman, aged 34 born England living in Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey. Other household members are - Martha R Davenport, wife, 38 born England; Harriott, daughter, 8 born New Jersey; Emily, daughter, 4 born New Jersey; Annie Donlin, servant, 20 born Ireland.
            My avatar is my Great Grandmother Emma Gumbert

            Sue at Langley Vale

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            • #7
              Administration (with Will) means there was a will but it was perhaps defective or for some other reason probate wasn't granted. So that might be a good one to go for.
              Uncle John - Passed away March 2020

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              • #8
                Thanks Sue, I think that is definitely them.

                My relative was John Henry Davenport, born 1846 so the year matches, and he married Martha Rain White in 1869. Not really worried about the middle initial being wrong.

                Was maybe hoping for some other children otherwise this line will die out.

                Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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                • #9
                  Well done, Sue

                  Jay
                  Janet in Yorkshire



                  Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                  • #10
                    Unfortunately, US 1890 census burned. You can't be sure there weren't other children born after the 1880 census.

                    Do you have their return to the UK? Where did Martha die?

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                    • #11
                      I do not have any passenger information for them at all.

                      Martha died in JFM 1895 in Christchurch district.
                      John died March 1899 in Bournemouth (Christchurch District).

                      Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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                      • #12
                        do you need the 1880 record?

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                        • #13
                          Hello,

                          John may had a son. From ancestry.com

                          New Jersey , Births and Christenings Index 1660- 1931
                          John H Davenport b. 18 Sept 1880, Jersey City, Hudson
                          Parents - John H Davenport 34 yrs, b. England
                          Mother - white 38 yrs , born England
                          FHL Film # 494191

                          New Jersey Deaths and Burials Index 1798 - 1971
                          Jno H Davenport b. abt 1881 USA, d. 5 September 1881, Jersey City, Hudson
                          Fathere's bplace England, mother's bplace England
                          FHL Film # 589831

                          I couldn't find then in the New Jersey State cenus of 1895, or in the fragments of the 1890 census.

                          bcbrit
                          George, Uren, Toy - Cornwall. Barrows, Blair, Bowyer, Freeth, Green, Manie - London

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                          • #14
                            There is a "J H Davenport" - "wife", birth abt 1842, arriving NYC on 12 Apr 1871. She may have arrived separately from him.

                            And there is a "Jno Davenport", age 27, arriving NYC on 21 Feb 1872 - but his occupation is labourer - seems unlikely

                            There are Jersey City city directories, but I'm not finding them online. I think Ancestry has 1891-1893. Not finding them in 1889=90. I don't see the other years on Ancestry
                            Last edited by PhotoFamily; 20-08-12, 05:28.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you everyone.

                              PhotoFamily - if you have the 1880 record that would be great, shall I PM you my email address?

                              Remembering: Cuthbert Gregory 1889 - 1916, George Arnold Connelly 1886 - 1917, Thomas Lowe Davenport 1890 - 1917, Roland Davenport Farmer 1885 - 1916, William Davenport Sheffield 1879 - 1915, Cuthbert Gregory 1918 - 1944

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