Did John dump Sarah?

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

New info on an old problem has come to light but I need some suggestions please.

John Goulson married Sarah Haynes 02 May 1838, Bottesford Church, Leicestershire.

In 1848 an article was posted in the Stamford Mercury stating John would not be held responsible for any debts/credit due in the name of Sarah, shortly after he went to the USA with his surviving two children, subsequent census returns are all in America and his wife is noted as Ann(ie) Wakefield Goulson.
So did he dump Sarah?

1841 England Census
Civil Parish: Bottesford
Hundred: Framland
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Denton

Household Members: Name Age
John Goulson 25
Joseph Goulson 3
Maria Goulson 1
Sarah Goulson 20

1850 Avon, Rock, Wisconsin USA

John Goulson 34 Farmer bn England
Ann Goulson 22 bn England
Joseph Goulson 12 bn England
Mariah Goulson 10 bn England

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1860 Avon, Rock, Wisconsin, USA

John Goulson 44 Farmer England
Ann Goulson 32 England
Mariah Goulson 20 England
Elizabeth C Goulson 9 bn Wisconsin
Alfred Goulson 12months bn Wisconsin

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1870 San Mateo, California

John Gaulson 55 Blacksmith bn England
Anna Gaulson 40 Keeping house bn England
Carrie E Gaulson 19 Wisconsin
Alfred Gaulson 9 Wisconsin

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1880 via the IGI

John GOULSON 65 ENG Blacksmith ENG
Ann W. GOULSON Wife 50 ENG Keeping House ENG
Alfred J. GOULSON Son 20 WISCONSIN Blacksmith

[Chrissie Smiff]

I can't find anything definite in census etc on Sarah Glen. Loads of possible mistranscriptions though - but on EVERY census! No likely remarriage and if she didn't remarry the only possible 2 deaths would have made her at least 6 years younger than the 1841 census.
Did it say born in county in 1841?

[Breckland Jane]

Possible marriage for a Sarah GULSON in 1848

Name: GULSON, Sarah
Registration district: [?] Grantham
County: Lincolnshire
Year of registration: 1848
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

[Elaine]

after looking at the marriages and also 1851

1851 Census
HUBBARD, Samuel H
GRANTHAM, Lincolnshire
HO107 piece 2102 folio 52 page 33


Found this 1861
Class: RG 9; Piece: 976; Folio: 50; Page: 3 In Huntingdonshire
Sarah Hubbard 37 Mar born Ancaster
Frederick Gulson Hubbard 9 born Ancaster
Sarah Jane Hubbard 7 born Middlesex Finchley
Selina Hubbard 1 Months born Huntingdonshire Warboys

thinking Gulson is probably a maiden name and she is from Lincs, just couldn't get over the fact that Samuel was a blacksmith

[Darksecretz]

kind of throws out the idea that she played away from home then.. as freddy boy is 9 on the 1861..

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

I'm fairly sure she was born in Bottesford, Leics, her father was Edward, when he was buried in 1864 he was recorded as " 40 years Parish Clerk of Bottesford"

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

Ha, finally found her bapt on the IGI

name: Sarah Haynes
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Nov 1818
baptism/christening place: BOTTESFORD,LEICESTER,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Edward Haynes
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

after looking at the marriages and also 1851

1851 Census
HUBBARD, Samuel H
GRANTHAM, Lincolnshire
HO107 piece 2102 folio 52 page 33


Found this 1861
Class: RG 9; Piece: 976; Folio: 50; Page: 3 In Huntingdonshire
Sarah Hubbard 37 Mar born Ancaster
Frederick Gulson Hubbard 9 born Ancaster
Sarah Jane Hubbard 7 born Middlesex Finchley
Selina Hubbard 1 Months born Huntingdonshire Warboys

thinking Gulson is probably a maiden name and she is from Lincs, just couldn't get over the fact that Samuel was a blacksmith

Ancaster does throw up Goulson/Gulson names, I have yet to make a link between the families but there is an early 1700's marriage in Boston where the name is Goulson, at remarriage in the mid 1700's it becomes Gulson and probably links to a pub in the area.

Mid 1800's there are records for a marriage of a couple in both spellings and the hubby was a blacksmith, birth certs for two of the children are also in both variant spellings, parents details on both certs match, dad registered one and mum the other, both marked with a cross so perhaps they couldn't read the entry and see a possible error.

[Elaine]

I noticed a few Gulson's when I was checking marriages I have for Lincoln. Have got this for you from my Leicester bits

Bottesford 25-Nov 1789 Lic
Edward Haynes OTP Bach 23
Esther Birch OTP Spin 25

I'm not that far from Bottesford!

[Elaine]

Wondered if these were of any help

Burials

BOTTESFORD 550 EDWARD HAYNES BOTTESFORD 29-Apr 1836 70
BOTTESFORD 1248 EDWARD HAYNES BOTTESFORD 04-Jun 1864 70
BOTTESFORD 582 ESTHER HAYNES BOTTESFORD 10-Apr 1838 75
BOTTESFORD 694 ESTHER HAYNES BOTTESFORD 03-Jan 1843 18
BOTTESFORD 1394 ELIZABETH HAYNES BOTTESFORD 02-Mar 1870 82
BOTTESFORD 278 ELIZABETH HAYNES BOTTESFORD 08-Dec 1886 62
BOTTESFORD 265 MARY HAYNES BOTTESFORD 11-Oct 1825 10
BOTTESFORD 950 MARY HAYNES BOTTESFORD 18-Aug 1853 7
BOTTESFORD 400 WILLIAM HAYNES BOTTESFORD 10-Jun 1892 75
BOTTESFORD 1077 WILLIAM HAYNES BOTTESFORD 25-Nov 1857 8

[Elaine]

And a couple of early marriages

Bottesford 12-Dec 1825 B
Ann Haynes OTP
Thomas Jackson OTP

Bottesford 10-Sep 1833 L
Mary Haynes OTP Spin 21+
William Watts OTP Bach 21+

I have found a marriage at Granby, not far from Bottesford
Edward Haynes to Elizabeth Marson at Granby All Saints 17th Feb 1812
Can't quite make out her birth place 1851 or can you make it Granby at a push!

Sorry I seem to have hijacked with Haynes :o

[Elaine]

Have you had a look here

http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells/

there are some parish details and an odd photo

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

Thanks Elaine, I did visit the church a year or three ago on a trip to the area (Bingham, Ropsley and Heckington amongst the other places in the area).


I never really looked at the Haynes as John went to America so I followed him there (it's well documented as they were a founding family). What happened to Sarah is a mystery and the news article I found this week throws a whole new light on things.

[Glen in Tinsel Knickers]

Eight years down the line and still not sure what happened to Sarah but something just popped up


The marriage cert shows John to be a blacksmith and resident at Belvoir at the time

A son, John,
b 06 Oct 1844
Belvoir Stables, Grantham, Lincolnshire
d. 27 May 1845
Belvoir, Leicestershire

In March 1846 a newspaper advert "To be disposed of, the good will of an extensive farriery business with a first rate connection in the Vale of Belvoir. Any person taking the same can be accomodated on the land lately used in the said business" Apply S Goulson, Thoroton, near Orston, Notts.

There isn't another S Goulson in the tree at that time. I wonder?