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  • Help with Alicia Eustace.

    11 Dec 1867 Brewer Atkinson married Mary Gordon at the church of St Michael, Ordnance Place, Chatham, Kent.
    Brewer was in the marines and was a widower. (He & Mary went on to have 2 children, before Mary died in 1877.)

    There is an earlier marr reg for Brewer Atkinson, Medway, Sep qtr 1863. The other groom was Joseph Byron & the 2 possible brides were Alicia Eustace & Martha Wickens - I think Joseph married Martha.

    Prior to the marriage, I can't find an Alicia Eustace in census.
    Nor can I find a likely death reg (1863 - 1867) for an Alicia Atkinson.

    The second marriage, with Brewer recorded as a widower, was a "marine marriage."
    I think marines tended to "stay put," unlike the army who had frequent postings at home or abroad. So, I think Brewer's family and personal circumstances would have been known to his CO and that "widower" was probably the truth.

    Can anyone help with Alicia, please? (I would like to find her year of death just to tidy up Brewer's profile.)

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    not having any luck as yet you sure its the same Man ?

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    • #3
      Marriage certificate of Brewer and Alicia (need to scroll to right hand side of page) - source CityArk
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      • #4
        Possible 1851 census for Alicia, recorded as Alice
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        .. edit .. age a bit out for that!
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        • #5
          Thanks for looking, Val. Yes, same chap - I think there only was the one in Kent around that time.

          Elaine, many thanks for that - I tried to access that site earlier today and couldn't get past the front page (Got a new PC and am still on a massive learning curve!) Wey, hey!

          Jay
          Janet in Yorkshire



          Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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          • #6
            wow Elaine what site is that?

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            • #7
              Thanks again, Elaine - in 1851 brother was recorded as a carver & gilder, which matches with father's occ on marr cert. Father Alexander in both census & at marriage, so looking good!

              Jay
              Janet in Yorkshire



              Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Val wish Id never started View Post
                wow Elaine what site is that?
                City Ark - has images of parish registers for the Medway area
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                Problem is, it is not indexed so unless you know the church then it can be a long trawl through images. Fortunately the marriage of Brewer and Alicia was on FamilySearch where it gave the date and name of church, so just had to find the right page.
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                • #9
                  think I have found her in 1851
                  http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...61-&bsk=&pgoff=

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                  • #10
                    oh pooh too late again

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
                      Thanks again, Elaine - in 1851 brother was recorded as a carver & gilder, which matches with father's occ on marr cert. Father Alexander in both census & at marriage, so looking good!

                      Jay
                      It does look like a possible match - not sure if Alice and Alicia are the same person or not - she may have been telling porkies with her age!
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                      • #12
                        She wouldn't have been the first to knock a few years off!

                        Val, thanks again for trying.

                        Jay
                        Janet in Yorkshire



                        Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                        • #13
                          Still can't see a death for Alicia.
                          Elaine







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                          • #14
                            Have you found this one yet

                            1851 Census 17, Sudell Street, Manchester
                            EUSTACE, Alexander
                            MANCHESTER, Lancashire
                            HO107 piece 2230 folio 0 page 0

                            the sons occs are carver and gilder and Alexander picture framer all born in Ireland

                            EUSTACE, Alexander Head Married M 55 1796 Picture Frame Maker
                            EUSTACE, Mary Wife Married F 54 1797
                            EUSTACE, William Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Carver And Gilder
                            EUSTACE, Alexander Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Carver And Gilder
                            EUSTACE, Alice Dau Unmarried F 17 1834 French Polisher

                            Just not sure on Alicia yet
                            Last edited by Elaine; 15-06-12, 19:59.
                            Elaine

                            Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                            http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                            http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                            • #15
                              Oooooh whoops, sorry was working on it and had a phone call in between
                              Elaine

                              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                              • #16
                                Brother Alexander Eustace seems to have remained in Manchester in 61 & 71, but I can't find mother, father or brother William. All born Ireland, too.

                                Jay
                                Janet in Yorkshire



                                Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                                • #17
                                  Deaths

                                  Name: EUSTACE, Alexander
                                  Registration district: Manchester
                                  County: Lancashire
                                  Oct-Nov-Dec 1853
                                  8D/237


                                  Name: EUSTACE, William

                                  Registration district: Manchester
                                  County: Lancashire
                                  Jul-Aug-Sep 1851
                                  20/527
                                  Last edited by Elaine; 15-06-12, 20:54.
                                  Elaine

                                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                  • #18
                                    This one is bugging me but I am getting nowhere, started looking for Alicia and and am just throwing it out there

                                    1861
                                    RG 9; Piece: 2957; Folio: 71; Page: 31
                                    9, League Street, Manchester

                                    Mary Garvey 61 Labourer's wid and as Garry
                                    Patrick Garvey 26
                                    Mary Garvey 28
                                    Alicia Garvey 22 worsted weaver
                                    Thomas Garvey 7
                                    all from Ireland except Thomas

                                    didn't think too much but Mary is a french polisher, there is a death for a Mary Eustace in Warrington so I really don't know
                                    Last edited by Elaine; 15-06-12, 21:50.
                                    Elaine

                                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                    • #19
                                      Thanks for your time and effort, Elaine.
                                      It doesn't really matter a fig - Brewer is a very thin branch in my tree and his children belonged to the second marriage anyway. It's just this desire to tie up all the loose ends ....

                                      Finding the image of the first marriage has been great, so thanks again to everyone for pointing me in the right direction for that.

                                      Jay
                                      Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 15-06-12, 22:26.
                                      Janet in Yorkshire



                                      Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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