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  • Common to have a "replacement" son?

    Just digging deeper into my earlier query- In 1881 I have the family with a son called Herbert (named after the father) aged 4, 10 years later I have them with a son Herbert- aged 4, and he's in the correct descending chronological place on the census. Do you think it's a census error- a possible mishearing of 14, or was it really possible after the death of a child to name a new one after them?

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    I have several instances where children have been named after their dead siblings, so not uncommon. You could try looking for a birth for the "new" Herbert or a death for the one who appears in 1881. Have you found Herbert in 1901?
    Jenny

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    • #3
      Yes, very common, for boy or girl. I, too, have several, not even necessarily a parent's or grandparent's name.

      I was confused, too, with the reversing of names, i.e., first child Edward George - who died - and the next boy, George Edward. Dad was Edward, maternal grandfather was George.

      And later there was another Edward!
      Last edited by PhotoFamily; 11-05-12, 03:05.

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      • #4
        I looked on freebmd, but couldn't see a death. I'm still digging, so hopefully I'll come across something. Thanks for your input, it's good to get a second opinion on the little nagging questions.

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        • #5
          Ah names!! Of little or no use in the victorian era! lol. Herbert Bloomfield James Green- known as Bloomfield in 1841 and 1851, then a steady usage of Herbert up until 1891, decides that in 1901 he wants to be called George!

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          • #6
            Scrap that earlier comment, Herbert Goodwin Green 5 dies 1882 - replacement Herbert Goodwin Green Born 1887, both Tynemouth. Goodwin is also the middle name of Herbert Sr's grandfather (and I assume other family menbers too).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Konovolov View Post
              Scrap that earlier comment, Herbert Goodwin Green 5 dies 1882 - replacement Herbert Goodwin Green Born 1887, both Tynemouth. Goodwin is also the middle name of Herbert Sr's grandfather (and I assume other family menbers too).
              I imagine Goodwin is a surname of one of the women somewhere along the line.

              Margaret

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              • #8
                One of my Q's had 5 sons, the first 4 he called 'John' and sadly they all died. He called the 5th 'William' who lived into his 70's
                Debs

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Debbss View Post
                  One of my Q's had 5 sons, the first 4 he called 'John' and sadly they all died. He called the 5th 'William' who lived into his 70's
                  Debs
                  spooky - and who says 'what's in a name?'

                  Margaret

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                  • #10
                    Lol! I think I may have tried a name change a bit earlier! Bless, he was obviously very keen for a namesake!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Debbss View Post
                      Lol! I think I may have tried a name change a bit earlier! Bless, he was obviously very keen for a namesake!
                      Yes, but at what cost!! must have been a slow learner.

                      Margaret

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                      • #12
                        Yes, I have this a lot too, but the strikng one is three Samuels in a row, all died, then a girl, then a fourth Samuel, who survived long enough to be killed in WW1.

                        OC

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                        • #13
                          In the 1850s one of my Joseph Dixon family had 11 children, all lived to be adults except the 2 boys named Edwin who died age d 3 and 4.. Perhaps in homage one of the cildren named Joseph named one of his 4 children Edwin and he died in infancy.. the others lived to be adults.
                          The name Edwin does not appear again....

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                          • #14
                            I too have had lots of replacement children! I do not understand how they could call a second child the same name as the one who had died, to me it is like putting the mockers on the poor child! I agree that the goodwin is probably a maiden name somewhere down the track, again i have had this lot in my tree and most recently in my husbands tree, generations were called Walter Thorne Tarrant, it was only when I got right the way back the the late 1700's I found a John Tarrant whose wife mothers name was Mary Thorne
                            KAREN xx

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for your help everyone. I'm slowly getting back into this- well, I say slowly, but I was digging around like a maniac on A******y last night! I'd forgotten what a great support network we have here.

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                              • #16
                                I had that when I was looking for my Grandma's birth certificate. The first one I ordered came back with birth date in June. She lived with us all her life so I knew it was 31st May.

                                When I delved further I saw that Great Grandma lost a child to measles at 16 months named Rosetta and when Grandma was born 5 months later she was called Rosetta

                                Linda

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                                • #17
                                  Great-grandfather's name was John as was his older brother (about two years older than him); possibly the elder John was poorly and they thought name the next one just in case. The older brother did die young.

                                  Another instance was when a William was born and died, then the next was named William, etc, etc etc and eventually one named William survived.
                                  Joy

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                                  • #18
                                    There was superstition involved too - it was thought that the Devil, having already taken one child called Samuel, or whatever, would miss another one called Samuel and that one would survive.

                                    OC

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Olde Crone Holden View Post
                                      There was superstition involved too - it was thought that the Devil, having already taken one child called Samuel, or whatever, would miss another one called Samuel and that one would survive.

                                      OC
                                      I didn't know that! Thanks for that OC
                                      KAREN xx

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                                      • #20
                                        fascinating oc!!

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