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  • Still trying to find Alice Grace

    Have asked before but still not having any luck

    Alice Grace KEMP born 22 Dec 1863 Shoreditch

    Have her in 1871 and almost positive this is her in 1881 a servant in Leyton Essex

    She is not with her parents on any census and is a Nurse child in 1871
    Am hoping somebody spots what I have missed.
    Thanks
    Last edited by Guest; 04-05-12, 12:28.

  • #2
    there is an Alice G Peck born 1865 in Finsbury on the 1891?

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    • #3
      Maybe thats where I am going wrong as that isn't on FMP ??? where I have been looking ? Thanks very much Ellen off to look at Ancestry.

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      • #4
        oh shame its an Alice Emily Waldron so mistrancribed as a G on Ancestry, I am assuming thats where you meant ?? thanks very much for looking.

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        • #5
          Hi Val,

          I am assuming you already have this:

          Name: Alice Grace Kemp
          Mother: Mary Kemp
          Father: Jesse Kemp
          Birth: abt 1864 - Shoreditch St Leonard
          Baptism: 17 Jan 1864 - Shoreditch St Leonard

          thought would put it on in case you didn't

          Is it just the census info you would like for her? No marriage etc?
          KAREN xx

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          • #6
            Val, as you have her on the 1871, and agree I think that probably her on the 1881 although age is a little out, she would have been 19 not 16. By the next census in 1891 she would be 29 and almost certainly married. Do you have her marriage, or are you trying to find that?
            KAREN xx

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            • #7
              Could this be the marriage for parents

              Jesse Kemp Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 Battle Sussex
              Mary Kemp Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 Battle

              Cousins perhaps?

              Margaret

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              • #8
                thanks everybody I do have all the records for her parents Jesse Kemp and Mary Sperring they did separate, and Mary moved in with a George Tyler, I have Alice's baptism thanks, I just want to find her after the 1881 census marrried dead or alive.
                Last edited by Guest; 04-05-12, 17:32.

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                • #9
                  she didn't go by tyler by any chance?

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                  • #10
                    Have been looking for Alice G Kemp marriages and deaths Val, but have drawn a blank. Also cannot find her on any later census when we think she is a servant. I have also tried looking for a will of Jesse Kemp to see if he leaves anything to a Alice G Kemp or Alice G ? but cannot find a will. Very very annoying. She has to be there somewhere, dead or alive. Can only assume that she is either mistranscribed or emigrated? Thought that Kylejustin had a point but couldn't find a fit for Alice G Tyler either! Will make note of details and add it to my mystery pile!!
                    KAREN xx

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                    • #11
                      Just had another thought Val, I have searched for all deaths of Alice G ??? born in 1862/63 in the middlesex area, unfortunately there are loads BUT based on whatever married name it is we could search for the married last name and see what Alice G he married, that way if ancestry have mistranscribed Kemp she could still be found. I recently could not find a Tarrant, but did a search on any Sophia Brewer marrying in the right time scale and it came up with a marriage to Torrent, which was my guy!! Hope that makes sense: ie I found a Alice G monro death so did a search and found this, it not her but may explain my muddles post LOL!!

                      Name: Samuel William Monro
                      Spouse: Alice Grace Ford
                      Father: William Monro
                      Birth: abt 1860
                      Marriage: 9 Feb 1884 - Dalston Holy Trinity

                      ps did you read previous post? I wonder if she emigrated?
                      Last edited by Fuzzy; 05-05-12, 10:51. Reason: added text
                      KAREN xx

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                      • #12
                        Do you think she could have emigrated Val? I can't see an Alice G Kemp but there are lots of possible Alice Kemps.
                        On the other hand, there are Alice Kemp possibles in census if she kept varying her age and place of birth etc.
                        I can't find a marriage or a death that fits with the G included. If she dropped the Grace though it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
                        Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                        • #13
                          Oh dear sorry Fuzzy, I have just repeated loads already said. I started typing the message ages ago and carried on searching and adding to it.
                          Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                          • #14
                            I agree with Fuzzy about the cross checking deaths to marriages. I have done that successfully several times.
                            p.s. Can we have a list to work from though, so that we aren't all checking the same ones please?
                            Last edited by Chrissie Smiff; 05-05-12, 11:00.
                            Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks everybody for trying, I have looked under Tyler and Taylor as the family were mistranscribed as that too.
                              Jesse her father died in the workhouse so I doubt very much he left a will.
                              Last night I came across a death for a Alice Kemp in 1884 Hackney aged 19 ? I am wondering about that one , thing is I already bought a cert thinking it was her in 1890 dying in the Bethnal Green Workhouse aged 27 ,but as it says Needlewoman I dismissed it as she was a servant in 1881 ? or am I being daft ?

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                              • #16
                                Right here is the list of what I found:

                                Name: Alice G Adams
                                Birth: abt 1863
                                Death: Sep 1951 - Wood Green, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Arney
                                Birth: abt 1861
                                Death: Mar 1925 - Edmonton, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Bishop
                                Birth: abt 1863
                                Death: Mar 1945 - Hendon, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Bray
                                Birth: abt 1861
                                Death: Sep 1939 - Hendon, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Hillman
                                Birth: abt 1863
                                Death: Mar 1945 - Hendon, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Lawrence
                                Birth: abt 1861
                                Death: Jun 1944 - Willesden, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Monro
                                Birth: abt 1861
                                Death: Jun 1939 - Edmonton, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Turner
                                Birth: abt 1861
                                Death: Dec 1942 - Barnet, Middlesex, England


                                Name: Alice G Fawkner
                                Birth: abt 1861
                                Death: Oct 1915 - Brentford, Middlesex

                                Name: Alice G Bodley
                                Birth: abt 1864
                                Death: Jun 1941 - Brentford, Middlesex, England


                                Name: Alice G Casley
                                Birth: abt 1860
                                Death: Jun 1939 - Willesden, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Fosbrooke
                                Birth: abt 1860
                                Death: Sep 1943 - Brentford, Middlesex, England

                                ame: Alice G Garner
                                Birth: abt 1864
                                Death: Dec 1945 - Brentford, Middlesex, England

                                ame: Alice G Mansell
                                Birth: abt 1860
                                Death: Sep 1944 - Edmonton, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Sanford
                                Birth: abt 1864
                                Death: Sep 1946 - Brentford, Middlesex, England

                                Name: Alice G Slatter
                                Birth: abt 1860
                                Death: Dec 1919 - Edmonton, Middlesex, England


                                Have already eliminated the monro one!!
                                Last edited by Fuzzy; 05-05-12, 16:00.
                                KAREN xx

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                                • #17
                                  Ah, just seen your post Val, it difficult to know whether it the right one or not, I don't suppose the address or informant gave any clues?
                                  KAREN xx

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                                  • #18
                                    I would feel happier if it had the G in the middle Val. If she died as a servant though they may not have known or remembered about the Grace bit.

                                    I will start from the bottom of the list Fuzzy, is that Ok?
                                    Last edited by Chrissie Smiff; 05-05-12, 11:52.
                                    Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                                    • #19
                                      Great Chrissie, I have started from the top!! No luck so far and done 3, cannot find any of the first 3 mary a Alice G which is frustrating!
                                      KAREN xx

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                                      • #20
                                        Slatter eliminated
                                        Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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