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    Hi
    I am searching fo a Henry Bell born about 1840 his occupation was a carpenter between 1869 to 1898
    if any one has access to the NSW census I would be most grateful for any information, or if someone could advise me on what years they are available on line, I have purchased about 13 certificates with no matches so far I would be happy with any assistance
    ossiegirl

  • #2
    Whereabouts in NSW was he? Only the 1891 and 1901 censuses are available, and they don't have much information. What were his parents' names?

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    • #3
      Thank you for your reply Mary of Italy
      unfortunately I don't know much about Henry only that he was a Carpenter,I believe because of his occupation he moved around quite alot. he was living in the Inverell NSW. area in 1869 when my grandfather was born, I wonder if there would be any information on the Electoral Roll, I am just trying to get a lead there is also possibility that he worked on builting Bridges in Walgett NSW in 1886 I found a newspaper article on this. ossiegirl
      Last edited by ossiegirl; 04-05-12, 22:57.

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      • #4
        There are no census records in existence from 1841 to 1891 from NSW. Apparently they were all burnt in a fire in 1882.

        If you browse through the link below it will give you all the details of the 1891 census. Doesn't appear too hopeful.

        Last edited by grumpy; 04-05-12, 23:14.
        Whoever said Seek and Ye shall find was not a genealogist.

        David

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        • #5
          There was a Henry Bell in Kookarabooka in 1891, which is only about 75 miles from Inverell, so I suppose he's a possible. Unfortunately the census doesn't give ages or occupations; it just says there were 3 men and 7 women in the household. That census only names householders, though, so if he wasn't a householder, he wouldn't be listed. Can't see that Henry in 1901.

          Do you have his marriage cert? Does it give his birthplace and parents' names?
          Last edited by Mary from Italy; 04-05-12, 23:26.

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          • #6
            Hi "ossiegirl",
            What was your grandfather and great grandmother's name?
            The only births around 1869 registered for males to Father Henry appear to be at BERRIMA

            Reg. no. / Name / Father / Mother / District

            6436/1867 BELL HENRY HENRY ELIZABETH BERRIMA
            6766/1870 BELL NATHAN HENRY ELIZABELLE BERRIMA


            http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
            Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 21:13. Reason: post edited to remove C&P

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            • #7
              caddie51
              My Grandfather was born illegitimate under the name Henry Barter on 24th of Sepember 1869 in Inverell mother Louisa and his father was Henry Bell and he took his father name making him Henry Bell junior I know it's complicated
              Mary of Italy
              no I don't have Henry Bell Senior birth marriage or death Certificate just alot of unrelated certificates so I don't know his parents names sorry I know it not much to go on.

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              • #8
                Mary of Italy
                The Henry Bell living at Kookarabooka out of the 3 men and 7 woman living there was any of these names mention Louisa and John morris Louisa Barter a Frances Barter or Frances Pages and a Janet Bell
                ossiegirl
                Last edited by ossiegirl; 05-05-12, 02:39.

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                • #9
                  Hi "ossiegirl",
                  Louisa appears to have been married to a John MORRIS 1866

                  Henry was registered twice as MORRIS and BARTER.
                  There may have been siblings.


                  MARRIAGE
                  Reg.no / Groom's Name(s) / Bride's Name at Time of Marriage / District
                  1905/1866 MORRIS JOHN BARTER LOUISA


                  Reg. no / Name / Father / mother / district
                  10415/1868 MORRIS (FEMALE) JOHN LOUISA INVERELL
                  12087/1869 MORRIS HENRY
                  LOUISA INVERELL


                  BIRTHS
                  Reg. no. / Name / Father / Mother / district
                  12446/1874 BARTER FRANCES HANNAH
                  LOUISA INVERELL
                  12087/1869 BARTER HENRY
                  LOUISA INVERELL

                  Reg. no / Name / Father / mother / district
                  16170/1882 BARTER FREDERICK
                  LOUISA GLEN INNES

                  DEATH

                  Reg. no / Name / Father / mother / district
                  4363/1868 MORRIS INFANT JOHN LOUISA INVERELL


                  (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                  Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 21:54. Reason: post edited to remove C&P

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                  • #10
                    England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906

                    Henry Barter
                    Birth Date: abt 1824
                    Christening Date: 6 Jun 1824
                    Christening Place: Dewlish, Dorset, England
                    Father's Name: James Barter
                    Mother's Name: Mary


                    Frances Adams
                    Birth Date: abt 1825
                    Christening Date: 8 May 1825
                    Christening Place: Dewlish, Dorset, England
                    Father's Name: William Adams
                    Mother's Name: Elizabeth


                    MARRIAGE

                    Marriages Dec 1843
                    Adams Frances
                    Barter Henry
                    Dorchester 8 109



                    BIRTHS
                    Births Dec 1844
                    Barter Mary
                    Dorchester 8 61


                    Births Dec 1846
                    Barter Phebe
                    Dorchester 8 59


                    Births Jun 1848
                    Barter Louisa
                    Dorchester 8 74


                    (SOURCE: www.freebmd.org.uk)




                    Reg.no. / Last Name Given Name(s) Father / Mother / District
                    V18501415 50/1850 BARTER JAMES HENRY FRANCESS



                    (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                    Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 21:57. Reason: edit

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                    • #11
                      New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896


                      Henry Barter
                      Birth Year: abt 1824
                      Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1849
                      Vessel Name: Emigrant
                      Origin Location: Rose, Herefordshire, England

                      Henry BARTER 25 Farm labourer

                      Frances BARTER 24

                      Mary BARTER 4

                      Phebe BARTER 3

                      Louisa BARTER Infant


                      (SOURCE: www.ancestry.com)



                      DEATH

                      ** Henry BARTER was buried at KELSO Cemetery, NEW SOUTH WALES



                      Reg.no. / Last Name Given Name(s)/ Father / Mother /  District
                      2604/1870 BARTER HENRY AGE 45-50 YEARS  DIED BATHURST BATHURST


                      (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)



                      DEATH


                      Reg. no. / Last Name Given Name(s) Father / Mother /  District
                      2678/1873 BARTER MARY UNKNOWN UNKNOWN ST GEORGE


                      (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)



                      Last edited by caddie51; 06-05-12, 10:34. Reason: edit

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                      • #12
                        I have not found a marriage for Frances to a Thomas PAGE

                        DEATH
                        Reg. no / Last Name Given Name(s) Father / Mother / District
                        5027/1902 PAGE FRANCES ADAMS DUNGOG



                        BIRTHS


                        Reg.no. / Last Name Given Name(s) Father / Mother / District
                        7438/1862 ADAMS FREDERICK FRANCES DUNGOG
                        4439/1856 ADAMS MARY E FRANCES DUNGOG
                        6770/1858 ADAMS MATILDA FRANCES DUNGOG
                        7166/1861 ADAMS GEORGE FRANCES DUNGOG




                        Reg. no. Last Name Given Name(s) Father / Mother / District
                        V18544306 40/1854 PAGE JOHN THOMAS FRANCES


                        7438/1862 PAGE FREDERICK THOMAS FRANCES DUNGOG
                        4439/1856 PAGE MARY E THOMAS FRANCES DUNGOG
                        6770/1858 PAGE MATILDA THOMAS FRANCES DUNGOG
                        7166/1859 PAGE HANNAH THOMAS FRANCES DUNGOG
                        7166/1861 PAGE GEORGE THOMAS FRANCES DUNGOG



                        (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                        Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 22:03. Reason: edit to remove C&P

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                        • #13
                          MARRIAGE
                          Reg.no. / Groom's Name(s)/ Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) / District
                          1904/1866 NASH GEORGE BARTER PHOEBE DUNGOG


                          DEATH
                          Reg. no. / Last Name Given Name(s) Father/ mother / District
                          5643/1878 NASH PHOEBE HENRY FRANCES DUNGOG


                          (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                          Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 22:05. Reason: edit to remove C&P

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                          • #14
                            BIRTHS


                            Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                            8132/1866 NASH EMMA L GEORGE PHEBE DUNGOG
                            8849/1868 NASH CHRISTINA GEORGE PHEBE DUNGOG




                            Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                            V18762000 159/1876 NASH FLORA J GEORGE PHOEBE
                            10325/1874 NASH WILLIAM HENRY GEORGE PHOEBE DUNGOG
                            10998/1876 NASH LAURA JANE GEORGE PHOEBE DUNGOG
                            9258/1870 NASH MARY HANNAH GEORGE PHOEBE DUNGOG
                            9562/1872 NASH HARRIETT GEORGE PHOEBE DUNGOG



                            Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                            10287/1869 NASH ELIZABETH A GEORGE ANN DUNGOG



                            (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)

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                            • #15
                              Deceased Estates
                              Surname FirstName Locality DateOfDeath DateDutyPaid Item Reel Remarks
                              NASH George Dungog 06/08/1893 23/10/1893 [19/10189]; [20/55B] 3025 -


                              http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/

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                              • #16
                                No marriage found to BEDDOES

                                DEATH
                                Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                                2004/1924 BEDDOES LOUISA 82 YRS NEWCASTLE
                                NEWCASTLE



                                BIRTHS
                                Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                                34378/1886 BEDDOES OLIVER HERBERT F LOUISA TENTERFIELD
                                25287/1879 BEDDOES WALTER FREDERICK LOUISA WELLINGROVE



                                MARRIAGE
                                Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name
                                at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District
                                4764/1911 BEDDOES OLIVER POLLOCK AGNES E BELLINGEN



                                DEATH
                                Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                                4262/1953 BEDDOES OLIVER FREDERICK LOUISE NEWCASTLE



                                (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                                Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 22:09. Reason: edit to remove C&P

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                                • #17
                                  Caddie51
                                  yes Louisa was married to John Morris that's what has made it so difficult for me to trace them.Thank you for the information I will check it against what I already have
                                  ossiegirl

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by ossiegirl View Post
                                    Mary of Italy
                                    The Henry Bell living at Kookarabooka out of the 3 men and 7 woman living there was any of these names mention Louisa and John morris Louisa Barter a Frances Barter or Frances Pages and a Janet Bell
                                    ossiegirl
                                    MARRIAGE
                                    Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District
                                    1885/1876 BELL HENRY NEWBY JANET ARMIDALE


                                    Reg.no. / Last Name Given Name(s) / Father's Given Name(s) / Mother's Given Name(s) /District
                                    7522/1877 BELL HARRIET J HENRY JANET ARMIDALE
                                    24179/1881 BELL JANET M HENRY JANET ARMIDALE
                                    27342/1883 BELL ANNIE F HENRY JANET ARMIDALE
                                    29592/1885 BELL ELIZABETH M HENRY JANET ARMIDALE
                                    21312/1887 BELL MAY HENRY JANET GLEN INNES
                                    8752/1879 BELL WILLIAM H HENRY JANET ARMIDALE
                                    13794/1890 BELL HENRY HENRY JANET GLEN INNES
                                    14192/1892 BELL JAMES R HENRY JANET GLEN INNES
                                    12092/1898 BELL EDITH HENRY JANET GLEN INNES




                                    ?
                                    Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s)District
                                    5714/1872 NEWBY MARY NOWLAND
                                    JANET ARMIDALE



                                    (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                                    Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 22:10. Reason: edit to remove C&P

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                                    • #19
                                      BIRTH
                                      Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                                      V18542287 56/1854 NEWBY JANET RICHARD MARY



                                      DEATH
                                      Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                                      1923/1918 BELL JANET RICHARD MARY ARMIDALE



                                      DEATH
                                      Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
                                      16876/1918 BELL HENRY WILLIAM ARMIDALE



                                      (SOURCE: www.bdm.nsw.gov.au)
                                      Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 05-05-12, 22:14. Reason: edit to remove C&P

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                                      • #20
                                        CHRISTENINGS

                                        BELL SARAH 1853 WILLIAM SARAH CHURCH OF ENGLAND AUSTRALIAN AGRICULTURAL COMPANY; DUNGOG; ELDON; STROUD; UFFINGTON V18534064 39A 1853 0
                                        BELL MARY 1853 WILLIAM SARAH CHURCH OF ENGLAND AUSTRALIAN AGRICULTURAL COMPANY; DUNGOG; ELDON; STROUD; UFFINGTON V18534065 39A 1853 0
                                        BELL HENRY 1853 WILLIAM SARAH CHURCH OF ENGLAND AUSTRALIAN AGRICULTURAL COMPANY; DUNGOG; ELDON; STROUD; UFFINGTON V18534066 39 1853 0
                                        BELL JAMES 1863 WILLIAM SARAH CHURCH OF ENGLAND AUSTRALIAN AGRICULTURAL COMPANY; DUNGOG; ELDON; STROUD; UFFINGTON V18634067 39A 1863 0



                                        (SOURCE: NEW SOUTH WALES Pioneer Index 1788 - 1888)

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