Harding boys emigrate to the US in 1864 and 1871, help please

[ukfamilyhistory]

Hello everyone - Am trying to trace the emigration of George John Harding, born Haddenham, Cambs in 1834, who left for the US in July 1864 and later his brother William born in Haddenham in 1847, who left for the US in July 1871 (their parents were Henry and Mary Ann Harding). I have found an 1890 Census record for a William and George Harding in Byron, Ogle, Illinois but the age for George doesn't fit! Any help on emigration records or census records gratefully received.
Thank you for reading,
Rachel

[Darksecretz]

erm, who is George?

have you tried looking on www.familysearch.org ?

[ukfamilyhistory]

Thank you, yes that was where I found a William, wife, children and a George, but the age for the George doesn't fit. (Sorry it is George John!) Hoping for another source to get me going again!!
Rachel

[PhotoFamily]

Wow, unusual to find anything in the 1890 census - most (but not all) went up in smoke. you're quite lucky!

[Darksecretz]

Rachel,

do you know what Job he did? or his brother?

[Darksecretz]

looking at the Illinois George, it is looking like this one isnt yours, as that one was in Illinois in 1860.

[Darksecretz]

hmmn I have found the 1880 census that you found, with William as Head with his wife and children also a boarder, George.. Williams occupation is shown as a Stone Mason, and George as a Mill Burr? Dresser.. (praps also stone mason but specialising?)

[ukfamilyhistory]

Sadly I'm not convinced this isn't the right family :(

[Darksecretz]

Sadly I'm not convinced this isn't the right family :(

is it just Georges age that is throwing you ?

I can't see any other census at the moment.

[Darksecretz]

did william have a middle name at all? (H)?

[Darksecretz]

do you know what Williams Occupation was at all Rachel?

[Elaine]

Is this the family 1861

RG 9; Piece: 1037; Folio: 89; Page: 9

George c 1843 Miller

1880 Illinois with William in Ogle, Byron, he is a Mill Burr Dresser

[Darksecretz]

Is this the family 1861

RG 9; Piece: 1037; Folio: 89; Page: 9

George c 1843 Miller

1880 Illinois with William in Ogle, Byron, he is a Mill Burr Dresser

I thought that originally Elaine, but, this is him in 1861 in the uk

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=will*&gsln=harding&msbdy=1847&msbpn__ftp=Cambridgeshire%2c+England&msbpn=5256&msbpn_PInfo=7-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5256%7c0%7c0%7c&cpxt=1&catBucket=rstp&uidh=lg3&msbdp=2&cp=0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=16573659&db=uki1861&indiv=1

Both William & George are still here then so looks like that isnt them in Ogle/Byron Illinois

[Elaine]

In America 1861?
Worked the wrong country back first didn't I....

[Darksecretz]

In America 1861?
Worked the wrong country back first didn't I....

mmm lol!

[Darksecretz]

ok so we now know that Williams occupation was Gardener.. and George John was a Miller

[Elaine]

This was what is bugging me,

Day:12
Month:Oct
Year:1834
Forenames:George John
Surname:Harding
Relationship:son of
Father forenames:Henry Robinson
Fathers occupation:tailor
Mother forenames:Mary Anne
Abode otp
Place:Haddenham
County:Cambridgeshire
Record source:Cambridgeshire Baptisms

which are the same details for George and William 1861

[Elaine]

But have found a burial

Forenames:George John
Surname:Harding
Residence otp
Day:9
Month:Nov
Year:1840
Age:6
Notes:
Parish:Haddenham
County:Cambridgeshire
Record source:Cambridgeshire Burials
and no other George John baptism

[Darksecretz]

I see what you mean, I have been looking on FSearch, and they have the bapts on there too..

[Darksecretz]

I can't see anything that looks remotely likely..