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    Sorry, I don't have the link. It's on Ancestry, however.

    Robert William YOUNG married Phebe COVERLY
    3 Jul 1820
    St Dunstans, Stepney

    The curate's writing has not stood up to the test of time BUT
    - he was kind enough to give more residence information than usual.
    RWY was "of this parish & Hamlet of MEOT" - wow, haven't had that info given before.

    PC is even more difficult to read -
    "of this parish & ????? ????? Spinster"
    can anyone tell me what those scratches are?

    thanks
    sarah

  • #2
    Hmm, maybe his is "MENT"?

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    • #3
      If you look at this page, it looks like RWY "MENT" (Mile End New Town) and PC "ye same".

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      • #4
        Sorry, my Ancestry sub is not active just now. I do have a copy of the record.

        Does RWY mean anything to anyone?

        Agree that hers is probably "same" but the word that follows - not sure?

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        • #5
          I think the transcription reads:
          July 3rd 1820. Robt Wm Young MENT Bachelor
          Phoebe Coverly ye Same Spinster
          My avatar is my Great Grandmother Emma Gumbert

          Sue at Langley Vale

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          • #6
            PC is even more difficult to read -
            "of this parish & ????? ????? Spinster"
            I read it as:

            PC - OTP and same hamlet, spinster, (if you compare 'Hamlet' from RWYs, you will see what I mean)
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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            • #7
              Julie, where is that record from? On the Ancestry link Mary put up I can't see anything about 'OTP and same hamlet'?
              My avatar is my Great Grandmother Emma Gumbert

              Sue at Langley Vale

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LangleyValeSue View Post
                Julie, where is that record from? On the Ancestry link Mary put up I can't see anything about 'OTP and same hamlet'?


                this one Sue, I know you know what OTP is too (of this parish) :smilee:
                Julie
                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                .......I find dead people

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                • #9
                  ahh I see what you mean, Mary put the BANNS up, I put the MARRIAGE up..

                  edit to say: in the marriage index it has Phoebe mistrans as Phoebe COUSLEY.. lol!
                  Last edited by Darksecretz; 19-03-12, 09:40.
                  Julie
                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                  .......I find dead people

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Julie, found it now. I can't decipher it though! :(
                    My avatar is my Great Grandmother Emma Gumbert

                    Sue at Langley Vale

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LangleyValeSue View Post
                      Thanks Julie, found it now. I can't decipher it though! :(
                      it is a very poor page, but, once you get 'your eye in' it does become easier. (it doesn't help that the word 'church' from the line below Pheobes 'hamlet' bit seems to blur into it and therefore making the word 'Hamlet' look wrong)
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                      .......I find dead people

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PhotoFamily View Post

                        Does RWY mean anything to anyone?
                        Sorry, I abbreviated Robert William YOUNG, same as you did

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mary from Italy View Post
                          Sorry, I abbreviated Robert William YOUNG, same as you did

                          Yeah, I just realized that too... I think I was too focused on her, and it was late at night!

                          I like the OTP/hamlet of MENT for him, OTP same hamlet for her.

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                          • #14
                            Uh, oh, just realized I have another problem with this record:
                            Witnesses!
                            For sure, the first witness is Edward Coverly - probably her brother, could be her father
                            * I can't read the first name of the next person. Definitely Coverly is the second word.
                            * and the words after that - are they another person, or someone with a really long name?

                            Phebe's sibs (living at the time) were:
                            Charlotte Joyce, Geo Edward, Priscilla(1803), Samuel (1808), Anna (1810) but some were young

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                            • #15
                              I think there are 3 witnesses: Edward Coverly, Maria? Coverly and somebody Young (possibly initials only).

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                              • #16
                                I'd say Edward Coverly, Maria Coverly (eds wife?) and H T Young by the look of it.
                                Julie
                                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                .......I find dead people

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                                • #17
                                  George's wife was Maria Judith (or Judith Maria?) H T must be a relative of the groom.

                                  Thanks!

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                                  • #18
                                    It might be H something else though.. Coverly I quite can't make my mind up whether it is a T or an S or a J..
                                    Julie
                                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                    .......I find dead people

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                                    • #19
                                      Oh, my - I can make the second initial into a T, an L, an S, an F. I haven't explored the Youngs.

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                                      • #20
                                        Well, searching familysearch, there are three entries that pop up for RWY. The first two are duplicates -
                                        Christening for RWY on 1 Oct 1799: one has the DOB (18 Aug 1799) the other does not. Parents: Hilkiah Samuel Young & Margaret Young - so I think the initials on the marriage record are HS. The second record notes that the baptism was at Holywell Mount Independent, Shoreditch.

                                        BUT

                                        There's another baptism!
                                        4 Jun 1813, at St Matthew, Bethnal Green, RWY, born 4 Aug 1799, s/o HSY & MY

                                        Did the parents return to CofE and re-baptize the child? Wanted to be able to prove his birth?
                                        Last edited by PhotoFamily; 22-03-12, 04:54.

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