Can anyone find the Hemming family in 1861 please?

[SmallTownGirl]

In 1851 I have them in Welford, Warks:

Charles Hemming, 45, agricultural labourer, b. North Littleton, Worcs
Emmeline, 37, b. Marlcliffe, Worcs
George, 15, b. Cleeve Prior, Worcs
Mary, 9, b. Cleeve Prior, Worcs
Charles, 5, b. Cleeve Prior, Worcs
Judith, 3, b. Cleeve Prior, Worcs
Elizabeth, 1, b. Cleeve Prior, Worcs

Here's the link for those with Ancestry ...

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8860&iid=WARHO107_2074_2074-0849&fn=Charles&ln=Hemming&st=r&ssrc=pt_t23884140_p1559302009_kpidz0q3d1559302009z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=9496585

but I can't find the family at all in 1861, either as a family or as individuals.

Sometime between 1851 and 1871, Charles Snr dies because on the 1871 census Emmaline is listed as a widow, living with her son Thomas in Welford on Avon, Warks.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=GLSRG10_3205_3208-0364&fn=Emeline&ln=Hemming&st=r&ssrc=pt_t23884140_p1559202797_kpidz0q3d1559202797z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=24246387

Another thing that puzzles me, is that I can find a death for Judith (1862, registration district of Stratford, Warks), but I can't find a registration of her birth in 1846/7 anywhere (Cleeve Prior is in the Evesham reg district). Her christening is on the Family Search website as being at Cleeve Prior on 10 May 1847.

Can anyone help, please?

Thanks
STG

[Guest]

thre is a death for a Charles Hemming in Worcesteshire Evesham in Mar 1852 6c 179
still looking for the rest

[Guest]

cannot find any of them in 1861 yet? maybe in a workhouse?

[SmallTownGirl]

The thing that puts me off an Evesham registered death for Charles is the fact that the family were living in Welford, Warks in 1851, and Emmaline and son Thomas are still in Welford in 1871. So, why would Charles go back to Cleeve Prior/North Littleton just to die?

If you see what I mean.

Although, having said that I can't find an appropriate death in any of the likely Warwickshire registration districts for Charles (Snr).

If only we could find them in 1861, that might help to pin them down.

STG

[Janet H.]

A possibility is that Charles could have been visiting relatives and then took ill and died.

[Janet H.]

1861 Charles junior could have been married, which also complicates matters :(
so could his sister Mary.

[Janet H.]

Found George on the 1861 census under Heming.
born Cleeve Prior.

Class: RG 9; Piece: 2103; Folio: 45; Page: 7;


Mary on the 1871 (spelt Hemming) a servant.
Class: RG10; Piece: 321; Folio: 53; Page: 41

[SmallTownGirl]

Don't know about Charles jnr, but Mary didn't marry until 1875, when she married Nathan Gould. Mary is my g.grandmother. In 1871 she's in service in London, so away from the family. Doesn't help much, does it?

sTG

[SmallTownGirl]

Found George on the 1861 census under Heming.
born Cleeve Prior.

Class: RG 9; Piece: 2103; Folio: 45; Page: 7;


Mary on the 1871 (spelt Hemming) a servant.
Class: RG10; Piece: 321; Folio: 53; Page: 41

I've got George in 1861 and Mary in 1871 (see prev. post), but would really like to find Emmaline +/- Charles snr somewhere.

STG

[Janet H.]

death for Emmeline Hemming
July qtr 1894 at Evesham Worcester.

[Janet H.]

a possible for the 1871 census for Emmeline.
RG10; Piece: 3207; Folio: 15; Page: 17;
says born Warwickshire 1814
living with a Thomas Hemming aged 19

oooops you already got this

[Janet H.]

1861 Charles born 1846 is living with his brother George (spelt Heming)

[SmallTownGirl]

You're having the same luck as me. I can keep finding the ones I've already got, but 1861 for Emmaline with/without Charles snr is just not happening for me.

STG

[kylejustin]

charles hemming bur.26 mar 1852, elmbridge, worc. age 32, b.1820. so i think you can rule out the 1852 death?

[SmallTownGirl]

Thanks kyle.

Ancestry just isn't finding them for me. Is there anyone with FMP who'd be prepared to try to locate them in 1861, please?

STG

[charity]

FMP 1871. Emmeline is a widow living with her son Thomas in Welford on Avon Warwickshire. She is a field woman and he is n ag. lab

[SmallTownGirl]

Yes thanks charity, I've got Emmeline and son Thomas in 1871. I'm looking for Emmeline +/- husband Charles in 1861.

STG

[SmallTownGirl]

Just a thought, but it is possible that the bit of the census they're on in 1861 is "missing", and that would explain why no-one can find them?

STG

[Janet H.]

have looked on fmp but still cant find Emeline :(
tried to find Elizabeth too but still no luck.

Jan x

[Janet H.]

FMP

only ones found are
1851 when they are living in Little Oden, Welford
Charles, Emaline, George, Mary, Charles , Judith and Elizabeth.

1871
Emaline with Thomas. living Church Lane, Welford.

nothing else is coming up...........sorry.