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  • Could I have some help please.

    I am looking for the parents of William Henry Smale.

    He was born about 1889 in Victoria Australia.

    His mother was Trazar Millwood.

    And his father was Benjamin Smale.

    I would like to trace them back.

  • #2
    This is a starting point for you: New South Wales, Australia, Immigration Deposit Journals, 1853-1900. It also give their address in London before emigration.
    Phil
    historyhouse.co.uk
    Essex - family and local history.

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    • #3
      1881 census

      SMALE, Benjamin Head Married M 27 1854 Ship Carpenter Poplar Middlesex
      SMALE, Trazar B Wife Married F 24 1857 Poplar Middlesex
      SMALE, Florence A Daughter Single F 4 1877 Poplar Middlesex
      SMALE, Benjamin Son Single M 2 1879 Poplar Middlesex
      SMALE, Albert Son Single M 1 1880 Poplar Middlesex
      BEEZLEY, John Lodger Married M 67 1814 Carpenter Labour Wiltshire
      BEEZLEY, Louisa Wife Lodger Married F 65 1816 Hertford Hertfordshire
      KINLEY, Louisa Grand Daughter Single F 14 1867 Servant (Visitor) Poplar Middlesex

      Piece:505 Folio:116 Page:3 Registration District: Poplar

      Civil Parish:Poplar Municipal Borough:Address:49, Grundy St, Poplar County:London, Middlesex

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      • #4
        Marriage

        Trazen Barter Millward Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 Poplar London
        Benjamin Smale

        Volume Number: 1c
        Page Number: 789

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Breckland Jane View Post
          Marriage

          Trazen Barter Millward Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 Poplar London
          Benjamin Smale

          Volume Number: 1c
          Page Number: 789
          The marriage certificate is available on Ancestry in the LMA parish register collection ...
          Elaine







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          • #6
            1871 census

            SMALE, Benjamin Head M 52 1819 Kent
            SMALE, Benjamin Son M 18 1853 Kent
            SMALE, Henry Son M 16 1855 Kent
            SMALE, Annie Daughter F 5 1866 Middlesex

            Piece:584 Folio:69 Page:20

            Address: England Row, Poplar County: London, Middlesex

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            • #7
              This could be Trazar in 1871

              RANCE, William Head M 44 1827 Surrey
              RANCE, Fanny Wife F 37 1834 Sussex
              MILLWARD, Fanny Step-Daughter F 32 1839 France
              MILLWARD, Frazar Step-Daughter F 13 1858 Middlesex
              MARSHALL, William Visitor M 52 1819 Sussex

              Piece:573 Folio:113 Page:48

              Address: Richard St, Bromley St Leonard County:London, Middlesex

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              • #8
                Is it the same Benjamin senior in those censuses, because they are born in differing places.

                One says Poplar Middlesex and one says Kent?

                Beckland Jane, that indeed is Trazar and her mother.

                William Marshall was Trazars grandfather........(Fannys father)

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                • #9
                  I'm a bit confused (doesn't take much)

                  William and Fanny Rance are married?
                  Fanny Rance's father is William Marshall?
                  Trazar Millward is Fanny Rance's daughter?

                  Who is Fanny Millward?

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                  • #10
                    Fanny Rance was previously married to William Millward....and her maiden name was Marshall......and yes Trazar Millward is her daughter to her first marriage.

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                    • #11
                      That's waht i thought.......so who is fanny Millward???

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                      • #12
                        I have absolutely no idea.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harrys mum View Post
                          That's waht i thought.......so who is fanny Millward???
                          maybe she was Williams daughter? from a previous marriage ?
                          Julie
                          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                          .......I find dead people

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                          • #14
                            Death in VIC for William Henry SMALE - born c 1898

                            Surname: SMALE
                            Given Names: William Henry
                            Father: Smale Benjamin
                            Mother: Trazar MILLWOOD
                            Death Place: HEID
                            Age: 70
                            Age Code:
                            Year: 1968
                            Reg Number: 18744
                            Event: D

                            Another William Henry SMALE born 1889 in VIC-

                            From VIC Births-
                            Surname: SMALE
                            Given Names: Wm Hy
                            Event: B
                            Sex: M
                            Spouse Surname/Father: Jno Henry
                            Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ada RENSHAW
                            Age:
                            Age Code:
                            Birth Place: CARLTON
                            Death Place:
                            Year: 1889
                            Reg. Number: 29420


                            Service records of William Henry SMALE-says born in Sydney,NSW

                            SMALE William Henry : Service Number - 3313 : Place of Birth - Sydney NSW : Place of Enlistment - Brunswick VIC : Next of Kin - (Mother) SMALE Trazar B


                            The other William Henry SMALE-
                            SMALE William Henry : Service Number - 1890 : Place of Birth - Melbourne VIC : Place of Enlistment - Fitzroy VIC : Next of Kin - (Wife) SMALE Evelyn
                            Last edited by Kerri from Aus; 08-03-12, 10:01.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you Kerri for looking that up for me.

                              I have quite a bit of information on the family when they arrived in Australia.

                              It if further back I am trying to trace.

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