I apologise for the length of this story, hopefully I've explained things to be understandable, it is complicated as you will see as you go a long LOL
I have located My G grand father Arthur Manuell c1867 b Chartham Kent on all Census returns apart from the 1901. In 1891 I locate him in Chorlton, Manchester living with his 1st Wife Emily Manuell c1869 (nee ford) b Canterbury Kent. I can not locate her in any earlier census returns - They married In Canterbury Kent in 1886.
Marriage ref:
Name: Arthur Manuell/Emily Ford
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1886
Registration district: Canterbury
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 965
They have a son Bertie Cecil Manuell born 1887 in Fulham, in 1891 he is in Kent with grandparents Jesse and Mary Manuell.
Here are Arthur and Emily on 1891 census return:
Name: Arthur Manuell (mis transcribed Mannell)
Relation: Boarder
Where born: Chartham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Chorlton on Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Derby street, Chorlton on Medlock.
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 49a
Piece: 3188
Folio: 109
Page Number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hazelton Head, Widow.
Emily Mannell, married. Boarder, Born Canterbury Kent. (no age stated on Image)
Arthur Mannell Boarder, Born Chartham, Kent. Occupation: Car driver/Groom. (no age stated on Image)
I then find a marriage ref for a Arthur Manuell/Amy Garnett in 1891 Chorlton and decided to order it out of curiosity. The marriage turned out to be for my Arthur Manuell, which surprised me as only a few months earlier he was with Emily Manuell on 1891 census as above.
Address at time of marriage is 5 Lancaster street Manchester, Hulme area. Arthur states he is a 'bachelor', occupation plumber, name of his father, Jesse Manuell a keeper. Amy states she is a spinster, father William Garnett (deceased) a shoe maker.
Marriage ref for Arthur Manuell and Amy Garnett:
Name: Arthur Manuell/Amy Garnett.
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1891
Registration district: Chorlton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 10&f5=8c">1065
Date of marriage 26/12/1891
I then find a birth ref for a Jessie Manuell 1892, Salford, so I ordered the cert. - Jessie Manuell born on 26th June 1892 at 2 High Holborn Terrace Salford. Father stated as Arthur Manuell a plumber, mother, Amy Manuell. Address for mother stated as 2 High Holborn Terrace Salford. Amy Manuell was informant.
Then, I find a death cert for Jessie Manuell 1893, Salford so I ordered that one too - Jessie Manuell died on 10th September 1893 she was 14 month old. Death cert states her father to be Arthur Manuell a plumber. Amy Manuell her mother was present at the death she was also informant. Address of where Jessie died is stated as 38 Saint Simon Street, Salford, this address is also stated as mother Amy Manuell's address too.
I can not locate either Arthur Manuell, Emily Manuell or Amy Manuell in 1901 census, however I know Emily did not die between 1891- Jan 1911 as I have her death cert - She died March 8th 1911 aged 42yrs, Arthur Manuell a master shoe maker was informant and states he is the widower of Emily Manuell, Address 3 Hale Lane Failsworth. I can not find a death ref for an Amy Manuell from 1892 onwards? However I believe I may have located her but as an Amy Glover in Salford, I need to get a marriage cert to confirm if it's her or not? Ive no idea if her marriage to Arthur Manuell was null & voided or whether there was a divorce, that's another web to untangle in the future I guess lol
I locate Bertie Manuell c1887, Arthur and Emily's son in 1901 as a visitor in Hammersmith, London so I know their not with him. (mis transcribed Manwell)
Approx 3 months after Emily's death Arthur Manuell marries again LOL - he marries Susannah Stephenson c1873 b Lincolnshire (my G, Grand mother) on 23/06/1911 at register office, Prestwich, Manchester, by certificate.
Arthur states his father is Jesse Manuell a Steward Estate (deceased) he states his own occupation as master shoe maker, he also states he is a widower. Address given - 3 Hale lane Failsworth Manchester.
Here he is in 1911:
Name: Arthur Manuell
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Maidstone, Kent, England
Civil parish: Failsworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Hale Lane Failsworth
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Boat Repairer (Boot repairer)
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Failsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 24238
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Manuell 41
George Percy Robinson 39
Arthur states his birth place as Maidstone Kent.
Arthur states he has 1 child born alive, 1 still living and children who have died 0 (the child he states is living is presumably Bertie Cecil Manuell born 1883 to his first wife Emily Ford) - However he was also father to a girl named Jessie Manuell 1892-1893 born to his second wife Amy Garnett?
Bertie cecil Manuell is also living at 16 Hale Lane Failsworth, Manchester by 1911, he is with his wife Lucy Manuell nee Perkins and 2 children, so it looks like they all came from Kent and finally settled in Manchester.
Any help/ideas very welcome.
Tracy...
I have located My G grand father Arthur Manuell c1867 b Chartham Kent on all Census returns apart from the 1901. In 1891 I locate him in Chorlton, Manchester living with his 1st Wife Emily Manuell c1869 (nee ford) b Canterbury Kent. I can not locate her in any earlier census returns - They married In Canterbury Kent in 1886.
Marriage ref:
Name: Arthur Manuell/Emily Ford
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1886
Registration district: Canterbury
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 965
They have a son Bertie Cecil Manuell born 1887 in Fulham, in 1891 he is in Kent with grandparents Jesse and Mary Manuell.
Here are Arthur and Emily on 1891 census return:
Name: Arthur Manuell (mis transcribed Mannell)
Relation: Boarder
Where born: Chartham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Chorlton on Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Derby street, Chorlton on Medlock.
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 49a
Piece: 3188
Folio: 109
Page Number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hazelton Head, Widow.
Emily Mannell, married. Boarder, Born Canterbury Kent. (no age stated on Image)
Arthur Mannell Boarder, Born Chartham, Kent. Occupation: Car driver/Groom. (no age stated on Image)
I then find a marriage ref for a Arthur Manuell/Amy Garnett in 1891 Chorlton and decided to order it out of curiosity. The marriage turned out to be for my Arthur Manuell, which surprised me as only a few months earlier he was with Emily Manuell on 1891 census as above.
Address at time of marriage is 5 Lancaster street Manchester, Hulme area. Arthur states he is a 'bachelor', occupation plumber, name of his father, Jesse Manuell a keeper. Amy states she is a spinster, father William Garnett (deceased) a shoe maker.
Marriage ref for Arthur Manuell and Amy Garnett:
Name: Arthur Manuell/Amy Garnett.
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1891
Registration district: Chorlton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 10&f5=8c">1065
Date of marriage 26/12/1891
I then find a birth ref for a Jessie Manuell 1892, Salford, so I ordered the cert. - Jessie Manuell born on 26th June 1892 at 2 High Holborn Terrace Salford. Father stated as Arthur Manuell a plumber, mother, Amy Manuell. Address for mother stated as 2 High Holborn Terrace Salford. Amy Manuell was informant.
Then, I find a death cert for Jessie Manuell 1893, Salford so I ordered that one too - Jessie Manuell died on 10th September 1893 she was 14 month old. Death cert states her father to be Arthur Manuell a plumber. Amy Manuell her mother was present at the death she was also informant. Address of where Jessie died is stated as 38 Saint Simon Street, Salford, this address is also stated as mother Amy Manuell's address too.
I can not locate either Arthur Manuell, Emily Manuell or Amy Manuell in 1901 census, however I know Emily did not die between 1891- Jan 1911 as I have her death cert - She died March 8th 1911 aged 42yrs, Arthur Manuell a master shoe maker was informant and states he is the widower of Emily Manuell, Address 3 Hale Lane Failsworth. I can not find a death ref for an Amy Manuell from 1892 onwards? However I believe I may have located her but as an Amy Glover in Salford, I need to get a marriage cert to confirm if it's her or not? Ive no idea if her marriage to Arthur Manuell was null & voided or whether there was a divorce, that's another web to untangle in the future I guess lol
I locate Bertie Manuell c1887, Arthur and Emily's son in 1901 as a visitor in Hammersmith, London so I know their not with him. (mis transcribed Manwell)
Approx 3 months after Emily's death Arthur Manuell marries again LOL - he marries Susannah Stephenson c1873 b Lincolnshire (my G, Grand mother) on 23/06/1911 at register office, Prestwich, Manchester, by certificate.
Arthur states his father is Jesse Manuell a Steward Estate (deceased) he states his own occupation as master shoe maker, he also states he is a widower. Address given - 3 Hale lane Failsworth Manchester.
Here he is in 1911:
Name: Arthur Manuell
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Maidstone, Kent, England
Civil parish: Failsworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Hale Lane Failsworth
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Boat Repairer (Boot repairer)
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Failsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 24238
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Manuell 41
George Percy Robinson 39
Arthur states his birth place as Maidstone Kent.
Arthur states he has 1 child born alive, 1 still living and children who have died 0 (the child he states is living is presumably Bertie Cecil Manuell born 1883 to his first wife Emily Ford) - However he was also father to a girl named Jessie Manuell 1892-1893 born to his second wife Amy Garnett?
Bertie cecil Manuell is also living at 16 Hale Lane Failsworth, Manchester by 1911, he is with his wife Lucy Manuell nee Perkins and 2 children, so it looks like they all came from Kent and finally settled in Manchester.
Any help/ideas very welcome.
Tracy...
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